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More than 50 shots fired in Mosby, no injuries

From Ned Oliver at richmond.com:

Residents of Mosby Court say someone sprayed more than 50 gunshots around the neighborhood just before 7 p.m. Monday, striking two vehicles and at least one apartment.

Police said they were called to the 1900 block of Raven Street at 6:51 p.m., where residents told them two vehicles pulled up, fired shots and drove away.

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55 comments

Lauren Marie Rodgers 11/14/2017 at 1:19 PM

Yeah I heard it

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Meghan Rollyson 11/14/2017 at 1:23 PM

I was standing outside of Captain Buzzy’s and heard it 🙁

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Zachary Hodson 11/14/2017 at 2:24 PM

lol i was outside in front of lib when this happened and i thought it was fireworks

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westwind 11/14/2017 at 2:38 PM

Good grief, we’re living in a war zone.
Poor urban planning by the city — having all the low income housing concentrated in one area is asking for trouble.

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??????? ???????? 11/14/2017 at 1:43 PM

damn someone needs some range time

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Steven Summerville 11/14/2017 at 1:44 PM

Harrison B Williams I fucking told you this was from guns

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crd 11/14/2017 at 2:51 PM

It was heard all the way down on East Grace St.

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Chrissy Schlegel 11/14/2017 at 1:52 PM

Ridiculous

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Harrison B Williams 11/14/2017 at 1:55 PM

A massive explosion of ammo all at once, what was the police response? It sounds like these bastards are testing the waters before something really bad happens.

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Seth Moreau 11/14/2017 at 2:13 PM

I heard it. Sounded like a war zone. This is the first I have heard confirmation

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Natalie Smith 11/14/2017 at 2:14 PM

I was so afraid! I started screaming! All my friends said Those are fireworks!They should put cameras… Thank God nothing happened this time but that might not be the case next time!

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Sean Stilwell 11/14/2017 at 3:41 PM

@3 that was exactly the point at the time the projects were built.

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Brian 11/14/2017 at 3:54 PM

Anybody want to buy a house? Get it now before the bullets do!

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Donna Hicks 11/14/2017 at 3:14 PM

I heard the shots but no sirens.

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Melissa Pocock 11/14/2017 at 4:01 PM

Heard it from 25th & Broad

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SueWho 11/14/2017 at 6:32 PM

I called 911 at 6:51 to report it. Heard the gunfire all the over on E Grace, louder than heck. I haven’t heard rounds popping off like this in years, though the sound and proximity of gunfire has certainly increased around here this past year.

No more public housing should be built in the East End until these boneheads learn to box to settle their feuds – could be a money making proposition (yes folks, I’m trying to make light of a serious public health threat to our community).

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MP 11/14/2017 at 9:07 PM

Time to close the courts. Forever – this experiment has utterly failed. They’re a magnet for horrible, anti-social behavior.

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MP 11/14/2017 at 9:17 PM

Let’s start a letter-writing campaign. Everyone who wants to get rid of concentrated low-income housing and courts in the east end, write our council woman! Richmond/surrounding counties are a big, big place – why are they all here? Spread them out, this is nonsense. I’m so sad that the we missed the opportunity with the Creighton Court redevelopment. Seriously, if enough people to actually write her, maybe we can get some traction. When is enough enough? 50 FREAKING SHOTS!

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Rick Tatnall 11/14/2017 at 9:21 PM

WOW – All these selfish comments with no mention of the utter horror our neighbors living in Mosby and nearby the shooting endured last night. I listened to all the shots that started at 6:50pm last night from my apartment at 30th & Clay and I was immediately worried. This morning I met with administrators at MLK Middle School and I witnessed some of the aftermath of last night’s violence. The fact that y’all think this is “their” problem instead of “our” problem is why things are getting worse instead of getting better.

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Krista Perdue 11/14/2017 at 10:44 PM

Whaaaaaat?????

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FPW 11/15/2017 at 7:20 AM

6:16 Wednesday 11/15 Just heard about four gunshots. I am at 31st & Broad and indoors so they might have been close-seemed to be in the direction of Mosby.

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Natalie Smith 11/15/2017 at 6:23 AM

Hi everybody, I just woke up with shot guns sounds again. This got to be the same person. Is really scaring!

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Greg C 11/15/2017 at 8:48 AM

I also heard 4-5 pops at 6:20 this morning. I am at 26th and O and they seemed to come from the west. I didn’t know whether they were gunshots but seems they were. :/

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The U.....nion Hill 11/15/2017 at 9:19 AM

I heard the gun shots as well. Sounded like they were coming from Mosby for sure.

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The U.....nion Hill 11/15/2017 at 9:26 AM

Also, where is our useless millennial Mayor on this?

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Will Hall 11/15/2017 at 10:20 AM

@Rick Tatnall Great point!

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Wendy Anderson 11/15/2017 at 9:49 AM

RRHA was supposed to put cameras up two years ago. They still haven’t. Instead they decided the residents needed parking decals instead. When the crimes happen as this one did cameras seem to be better options than parking decals. But one costs RRHA money, and one makes RRHA money…..so you know which one they went with.

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Eric S. Huffstutler 11/15/2017 at 1:09 PM

@5 ??????? ??????? – I was thinking the same thing, if this was intentional. 50 rounds and only 3 hits? But seriously, Don’t these ignoramuses know that what goes up must come down into roofs, cars, and people, as they fall out of the sky?

We had this problem 20 years ago and it settled down. Must be some bad seeds have moved in again?

@19 Rick Tatnall… reminds me of the argument about property values dropping because of “them” moving in at the proposed Glenwood Apartments.

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Eric S. Huffstutler 11/15/2017 at 1:17 PM

@27 Wendy Anderson… making decals is a minimal charge. Purchasing high resolution cameras is not, for the numbers needed. True, electronic costs have come down a lot, including surveillance cameras, but I wonder if the city has looked into outsourcing to a company like ADT, who would supply them and monitor as well?

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SarahontheHill 11/15/2017 at 1:39 PM

I heard them from inside my house this morning too.

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lanny 11/15/2017 at 6:00 PM

#18 – “Everyone who wants to get rid of concentrated low-income housing…write our council woman!”
At least one more such concentration is under construction by the “better” housing coalition on Venable Street. On page 11 of their Low Income Housing Tax Credit Application is the following:
“Development Information, Structure and Units
Total number of all units in development 52
Total number of rental units in development 52
Number of low-income rental units 52
Percentage of rental units designated low income 100%”
And the council woman for the 7th district has stated that what the “better” housing coalition is doing on Venable Street represents her vision for our neighborhood.
So, I don’t know what you’re going to write to the council person, but good luck.

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Kathleen 11/15/2017 at 7:15 PM

It’s a straight-up miracle that no one was hurt or killed during this blitz. Mosby is a war zone and it’s located within 1 mile from most of us. How much longer can/will this violence go on??

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Eric S. Huffstutler 11/15/2017 at 11:32 PM

@32 Kathleen… I don’t think that statement is fair. Mosby, for being a low income housing project, is well maintained and you rarely hear about crime happening there. It is more Creighton and Gilpin Courts – both slated for redevelopment in 2015.

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lanny 11/16/2017 at 7:10 AM

#25 – I’m sure our mayor is hard at work and any day he will make an announcement about the plan he told us was in the works. He made his announcement in June: http://wtvr.com/2017/06/08/mayor-stoney-insists-plan-in-the-works-to-stop-surge-in-violence/

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lanny 11/16/2017 at 7:14 AM

#27, #29 – RRHA’s plan for parking permits hit the can nearly a month ago: http://www.nbc12.com/story/36630463/rrha-suspends-parking-permit-idea-to-curb-violence

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CHPN ADMIN 11/16/2017 at 7:47 AM

@Eric – peep this https://chpn.net/tag/mosby/

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Kathleen 11/16/2017 at 9:14 AM

Eric!! Are you serious right now??!!?????

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bill 11/16/2017 at 12:45 PM

there seems to be a difference between mosby north and mosby south.

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donald funk 11/16/2017 at 12:55 PM

@ eric, mosby has had more people killed than any other project in richmond this year. More than hillside, creighton, whitcomb, and fairfield put together.

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Will Hall 11/16/2017 at 2:36 PM

@33 LMAO

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Dubois2 11/16/2017 at 8:25 PM

It looks like Dr Newbille is quite simply in favor of more low income housing in the east end, with no target in mind. That doesn’t seem like a caring and considered approach.

I think the demolition and dispersal of one project would be an excellent subject for a letter writing campaign, especially given that RRHA has, apparently, NO plans to change their ways. Their lack of rules, (decals are a LITE crime control tool, and even that is being scrapped ) AND enforcement is just so sad, given the innocent people hurt and killed as a result. I doubt Dr Newbille will be receptive to the idea, but if that’s the case, it could set the groundwork for a serious, caring and public safety minded leader to emerge as a challenger.

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KDM 11/17/2017 at 3:32 PM

I also heard this gunfire while walking my dog in Chimborazo Park. It scared me too.

I would just like to add that there are so many really amazing people who, for many very challenging reasons that are difficult to overcome, have to live in public housing – I have personal connections with several of them! Moms who put their children down to bed every night in these public housing communities, just like other moms in any other part of the city, who want their kids to be safe, educated, and happy.

People who are looking for jobs but as soon as they get one are no longer qualified to stay in public housing – and because their new income is not enough to afford them a place outside of public housing they have to make a difficult choice – keep their job and lose their housing or leave their job.

I encourage everyone here to try to challenge your thoughts about public housing and the people who live in them. Poverty is a vicious cycle that people are born into and many social systems are built in such ways that make it really damn hard to climb out of that cycle.

Peter Paul Development Center on N. 22nd Street, who is working with the children, families, and community members in public housing, does a really great Lunch & Learn tour that includes a bus tour of the four public housing courts. It’s a really great way to learn more about these communities and the people who live in them – our neighbors!

Yes, there are bad people and people who abuse the system for sure, but let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

The soon-to-be new housing that is being constructed by Better Housing Coalition (and others) is housing meant to help break up the concentration of poverty in the East End. There will be regulations for tenants that will help to maintain the property and make the area safe. Therefore, the people who will get to live in them will be people who want it to be safe and well-maintained.

There are people living in public housing who, just like you and I, want to live in a thriving place where there is a strong sense of community and where neighbors are like family.

Check out Peter Paul if you feel inspired by this post – https://www.peterpauldevcenter.org/get-involved/lunch-and-learn/

Otherwise, it is not my goal to make anyone upset or put someone down. I just hope to add food for thought as our community continues to grow and change. Much love to everyone in the East End – Happy Thanksgiving!

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Bryan Brodie 11/17/2017 at 10:47 PM

@westwind, the nerve of those poor people all accumulating in one place in church hill to make it not-great-again….

is tyvek bulletproof? or is that kevlar?

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Eric S. Huffstutler 11/18/2017 at 11:51 AM

There are actually 3 sections of Mosby Court. The “South” Court, built in 1962, which I was talking about and near Leigh Street. Then there is the Central and North sections built in 1970 on either side of Fairfield Ave.

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Lee 11/18/2017 at 7:53 PM

@ Kathleen/Lanny/others concerned about the BHC project on Venable – although the Venable street project is 100% income restricted, LIHTC (low-income housing tax credit) properties are not the same thing as section 8 voucher or project based housing. LIHTC income restricted properties receive tax credits in exchange for restricting the income of some (or all) residents to a percentage of the area median income, usually 50% or 60%, adjusted for family size. I will try to follow this up with an estimate of what that i come would be for Richmond, but practically speaking LIHTC properties are more like “affordable” or “workforce” housing than truly low income housing. “Low-Income” is something of a misnomer.

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lanny 11/19/2017 at 7:08 AM

#45 – Oh, gods, this is sooo confusing!

Not even HUD states that “low income” housing is “…more like ‘affordable’ or ‘workforce’ housing than truly low income housing.”

From the HUD site -https://www.huduser.gov/portal/glossary/glossary_l.html

“LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT (LIHTC): A tax incentive intended to increase the availability of low-income housing. The program provides an income tax credit to owners of newly constructed or substantially rehabilitated low-income rental housing projects.”

But then perhaps HUD has no idea what it’s talking about.

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westwind 11/20/2017 at 9:46 AM

@Bryan Brodie: read my post again. The City’s urban planning gurus decided where low income housing developments happen. Your “poor people” obviously don’t have the money to build – they go where the housing developments are built FOR them.
Comprende?

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Lee 11/20/2017 at 10:43 AM

Lanny: The income limits fpr richmond can be found at: https://www.huduser.gov/portal/datasets/il/il2017/2017sum_mtsp.odn

As the project is entirely income restricted, I think they should be able to use the 60% AMI levels, meaning that a single person living in one of these properties could make up to $32,520 per year, up to $61,320 for a family of eight. I’m not sure how or if the program overlaps with section 8, nor am I familiar with all the ins and outs of this program, but I still think this is a much less impoverished section of the population than typically lives in project based public housing.

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bill 11/20/2017 at 4:45 PM

#47 the city council decides

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