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Preservation of trolley barn still an issue for proposed Glenwood Apartments

The Glenwood Ridge Apartments are progressing, though it looks like the development will need to preserve at least a portion of the former trolley barn on the site.

An August email forwarded from Mark Olinger in the city’s Department of Planning & Development Review says that:

We have not received any final drawings for review but can report the following:

They have continued the townhouse look of the property, esp. the building facing Glenwood.

Five front-loaded units (that is, units that front onto Glenwood, not entered through either the parking area or the rear) have been added with a covered porch area.

We have suggested that they preserve addit’l options for pedestrian connections to the property to the south at Glenwood and Government, and that nothing is done to preclude a connection to the property to the north, which provides access to the steps leading to E. Marshall St. above the site.

They continue to work with Kim Chen on the Section 106 review process…there is one more “consultation” that needs to be held for the Section 106 process but that is moving along pretty well…there will be a portion of the trolley building that will be retained as a way to help tell the story of the site.

Sidewalk will be installed along the frontage of Glenwood. I don’t recall other infrastructure items at this time, but they may show up on the plans when we receive them.

Four documents regarding the proposed demolition of the former trolley barn at the Glenwood Ridge Apartments site:

  1. Glenwood Ridge Section 106 Package 3
  2. 2017-3387 Richmond-Henrico Car Barn demo 3801 Glenwood AE_LTR
  3. Notice of Adverse Effect
  4. SHPO Concurrence Letter

Random discovery of the initial demolition permit for the trolley barn brought proposed development to the surface back in January, before any other plans or meetings had been shared or announced.

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Kate Doyle
Kate Doyle
2 years ago

Sounds like there’s no stopping this.

Nia McCabe Strei
Nia McCabe Strei
2 years ago

kimberly.chen@richmondgov.com is a place to start.

Church Hill People's News
Church Hill People's News
2 years ago

There will be a public meeting on September 18, 2017 at 6:00 pm at the Powhatan Community Center in the Greater Fulton Neighborhood.

Alex Goodmundson
Alex Goodmundson
2020 years ago

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Erik Grotz
Erik Grotz
2020 years ago

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Susan Haas
Susan Haas
2020 years ago

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Nia McCabe Strei
Nia McCabe Strei
2020 years ago

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Clay Street
Clay Street
2 years ago

If they can’t demolish the trolley barn in order to build their proposed development, I think this is effectively dead , at least for now (in my opinion). The actual size of the property is pretty small–look at the plat online or in the attachments. Considering the required setbacks and other limitations that were already in place that would constrain how construction could happen, I just think keeping the trolley barn would/will require a total reworking of entire proposed development, and this will require an entire new app to VHDA etc etc. From what I can tell online the property… Read more »

Will Hall
Will Hall
2 years ago

I have a question for anyone that will answer. I don’t live in Union Hill, so these apartments won’t effect me-I’m on the other side of the east end (eastview). The question that I have is are residents fighting against these apartments because of it’s structure and how it looks,the barn, or is it because of the fear and stigma of having low-income, section 8 residents living in your neighborhood? I was reading past articles on this site regarding this issue, and all three problems seem to be a concern, but what’s the main concern?As I stated, Im not in… Read more »

Dave
Dave
2 years ago

I think this is going to go one of two ways: either the developer will jump through all of the hoops on this one because he knows those other plots of land adjacent to this will be his in the future, or this goes away because of all the red tape.

Belinda Viers
Belinda Viers
2020 years ago

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SueWho
SueWho
2 years ago

I think that the crux of the opposition to this deals with the developer who has a poor track record of managing his other Section 8 housing developments-think Essex Village in Henrico. Since the trend in low income housing is to move away from concentrated models, ‘the projects’, folks are wondering why the East End has to shoulder the brunt of of these. The drawings of this complex look eerily similar to the City Jail. Given the rise in gun related deaths this year, people have good reason to question this development. With tracts of land still available in this… Read more »

Clay Street
Clay Street
2 years ago

Will, first of all, this development was not slated for Union Hill. It’s a site wedged between Chimborazo, Church Hill and Fulton. So about 20 blocks from Union Hill. There were several meetings (I went to all of them) and the people who attended (and let me be very very clear–these meetings were attended by white and black folks, young and old people, and also both new-ish arrivals to the East End as well as longtime residents) everyone had a problem with the size of the development in relation to the site. It’s backed up to the hill that leads… Read more »

David
David
2 years ago

Will – this project is at 3801 Glenwood Ave, so it is on the eastern end of Church Hill and western end of Fulton Hill near Gillies Creek. You may be thinking of the Citadel of Hope project by Better Housing Coalition on the north edge of Union Hill, which has city approval.

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Thomasbc Rogers
2020 years ago

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Martha McConnell Looney
Martha McConnell Looney
2020 years ago

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Pedey
Pedey
2 years ago

I thought this was a useful and informative read.(the study is a pdf, check that out directly if you have time.)
https://www.novoco.com/notes-from-novogradac/how-do-lihtc-properties-affect-their-surroundings

There are a few other longitudinal studies that come to similar conclusions.
New housing doesn’t have to be a loss for the neighborhood.

Joseph G
Joseph G
2 years ago

Glenwood Ave Property Owner/Landlord/ African American:

I would be open to senior citizens w/ fixed income housing / or mixed income village style projects. As far as a low income / housing project in an area that is finally increasing in property values, far away from jobs, grocery stores within walking distance, and an extremely inadequate GRTC transit line, I’m against! Does anyone know that status of this project thus far? I received a packet that had another hearing date for 9/18/2017. Please advise / chime in if you have any other details regarding this proposed project.

SueWho
SueWho
2 years ago

I attended the meeting and there’s no stopping the project, construction is slated to begin in January 2018. The building design was modified and looks less institutional than the original rendering that was first presented. Three of the trolley bays will remain along with part of a side wall, accessible to the general public for viewing that will include some type of historical marker/signage. Dr. Newbille has secured funding for improvements to Glenwood Ave. that includes a sidewalk on one side of the street. There will be extensive landscaping around the complex which helps soften the design, but only time… Read more »

ML
ML
2 years ago

As an update, I attended the September 26 district 7 council meeting led by Newbille. I had sent an email the day before and I reiterated that there was not enough transparency or communication or community and involvement. Legally, As part of the section 106 review process in conjunction with the historic preservation act of 1966, Involvement of the community and their input is critical and ample notice is supposed to be provided about meetings and details along the way. I cut and paste the laws and sent them to new bill and she agreed to hold another community meeting.… Read more »

ian
ian
2 years ago

@ML: Thanks for the update and for your continued efforts to crack this process open for community engagement. I’m going ahead and writing a letter to the mayor directly.

Neighbor
Neighbor
2 years ago

“I attended the meeting and there’s no stopping the project, construction is slated to begin in January 2018.”

Thank goodness! Glad to hear that the NIMBYs did not control property rights too much. If that dilapidated trolly barn was so important to everyone, maybe people should have pooled their money and bought it.

NS
NS
2 years ago

So Let’s see…14 Comments of concern and quality-of-life-related issues; trying to protect the future residents of any development at this site. 1 Comment from someone who takes a “Nyah Nyah, it won’t be in MY backyard—build whatever you feel like building, Mr. Big out of town Developer”
Feel like a shill for the corporation, much?

SC
SC
1 year ago

As of December 2018, most of this structure is being demolished. Very unfortunate.

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