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Looking for a “real-deal Philly cheesesteak”?

Jon and Leah Nelson get out to Str8 Out of Philly for richmond.com:

The cheesesteak ($7.95 for half-size) tasted like Jon’s memories of the real-deal Philly cheesesteak. The thinly sliced seasoned beef, smothered in provolone cheese (Cheez Whiz is available for true purists) satisfied our gluttonous side. An array of toppings ranging from onions and peppers to mayo and mustard can be added to any steak for those needing something more than steak and cheese. If an authentic cheesesteak or even just a hangover cure is what you’re craving, St8 Out of Philly is the place to go.

57 comments

Scott 09/04/2011 at 6:31 PM

Just went yesterday for the first time. It was hot as hell in there, the wait was forever but it was well worth it. That cheesesteak was awesome! Will be back for sure (but I might call ahead next time).

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Tony 09/04/2011 at 10:20 PM

Interesting. When I went, they said they didn’t have provolone. I took it to mean they didn’t offer it, but maybe they were just out?

I’ve only been to Philly once, and the cheesesteak I had was quite different from the ones offered at Str8 out of Philly, where I found the sandwich somewhat greasy with stale bread.

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Ice Man 09/04/2011 at 11:18 PM

I spent the first 36 years of my life in Philadelphia. I know what makes a good cheese steak. Mustard, provalone and mayo aren’t on the list. And what is seasoned beef? A good cheese steak is made with thinly sliced rib eye with american cheese and fried onions. Salt and pepper for seasoning. Yes, some use cheese whiz, like Gino’s, but they are the minority and do not define a Philadelhia cheese steak. For any good sandwhich the roll is key. And nothing is better than an Amoroso roll. It’s the Philadelphia water! I have not yet tried str8outofphilly but intend to. The reviews have been good. However I questiion how good a hoagie made of turkey ham can be. Nothing is better than real italian hams and salami. I’ll keep an open mind. I do wish “Hussand” the best and much success. I do tire of so called chesse steak experts who have never eaten a real Philadelphia cheese steak or hsve never been to Philadelpha.

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ChrisF 09/04/2011 at 11:38 PM

You can definitely find greasy and stale cheesesteaks in Philly. However, like most things, philly steaks are seldom created equal. Can’t wait to try this place.

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RVADrew 09/05/2011 at 1:49 AM

I’ve been to St8 Out Of Philly and I’ll be honest. It was alright. The bread was “okay” and the sandwich, while huge, was bland and kind of flavorless.

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kaykay 09/05/2011 at 11:16 AM

I have visited here twice. I got my orders to go. The first time, I made the mistake of walking in and placing an order to go. Twenty five minutes later I got my “cheese” steak sandwich, and inappropriate flirting from the owner. My sandwich, while huge, had no cheese, no onions, and no mayo as I had requested. But everyone has a bad day now again so…

The second time I ordered over the phone for pick up. I was given a twenty minute pick up time. When I arrived two men were just sitting at two tables. Not eating, not drinking. Just taking up space. The counter girl actually scowled as she heard the door open. The sandwich, while correctly made this time, was greasy and lukewarm to cool. Not sure I will be back.

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laura 09/05/2011 at 2:20 PM

Having lived in Philly for a number of years and visited both Pat’s and Geno’s countless times, STR8 is not exactly a “Philly Cheesesteak” Don’t get me wrong, they have good cheesesteaks but they are not like either Pat’s or Geno’s…yes, Geno’s with an “E”. The joints at 9th and ‘Shunk undeniably set the standard for a Philly Cheesesteak. The first time my son and I visited, the owner asked if we wanted lettuce and tomato on the steak. That’s when I first questioned the authenticity of the steak. Where are the grilled onions?

I agree with the other posts about the time it takes to pick up a togo order. They always say 15-20 mins only to wait another 15-20 upon arrival. That needs to get fixed or folks will start getting pissy.

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sunny 09/05/2011 at 2:33 PM

Would like to know if they now offer provolone cheese? Hope so.
I also was told they didn’t carry it.

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laura 09/05/2011 at 2:33 PM

Joe Vento, the owner of Geno’s in Philadelphia passed away on Tuesday.RIP Joe.

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Luke 09/05/2011 at 3:09 PM

I’ve been to this place once. I had a similar experience with a long wait – almost a half hour to get a half cheesesteak. I don’t mind a long wait if the result is good, but after getting home I found myself facing a soggy cheesesteak with tons of greasy meat, little, unmelted cheese, and pretty much nothing else. I had asked for the cheesesteak with “everything.”

I figured maybe I just don’t care for cheesesteaks that much, but I had remembered a much better experience in Philly many years back. With a ton of meat with little else to provide flavor, I was sorely disappointed. When eating something unhealthy, the consolation can be when it is very enjoyable – this was the worst of both worlds: unhealthy and not tasty.

I won’t be back.

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Syd 09/05/2011 at 3:28 PM

I’ve had nothing but good experience with this place, but then I don’t eat red meat, so I haven’t tried the cheese steak. I really like the fact that they offer the turkey ham and pastrami because, again, I don’t eat red meat. Yeah, it takes them 20 minutes to make a sandwich so I call ahead. I think they’re having some problems in the customer service department because one of my friends went over there and reported similar issues with the service. For my part, I have no complaints. The hoagie roll was loaded with deliciousness, and plenty of it.

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Trish 09/05/2011 at 7:47 PM

@laura–a cheesesteak with lettuce and tomatoes is considered a cheesesteak hoagie, a different beast than a regular cheesesteak. I always get my cheesesteaks “Whiz wit” (Cheez Whiz and onions) and while yes, it is not a dupe of Pat’s, Geno’s, Steve’s Prince of Steaks, Dalessandro’s, etc. it’s as close as you’re going to come in the RVA. Added bonus–sixty second walk from my house.

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Jaime 09/05/2011 at 8:50 PM

I don’t like the str8 cheese steak, personally. The seasoning on the beef is all wrong, and it tastes more like they are trying to hide something than enhance it. And fake meats bug me, so the turkey ham thing literally leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

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laura 09/05/2011 at 8:59 PM

@12 Exactly my point. I should have been more clear in my original post…the owner of STR8 asked if we wanted lettuce and tomato on a Philly cheesesteak. I told him we wanted it to be authentic and he said that L&T was authentic on a Philly cheesesteak. It was at that moment that I questioned whether he had ever been to Philly. I don’t think Pat’s or Geno’s even have a shred of lettuce in the house.

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RVAfoodie 09/05/2011 at 9:59 PM

My recent visit to Str8 Out of Philly resulted in a blog post about my lifelong love-affair with steak and cheese subs. Str8 gets pluses and minuses in my story. But, if you just wanna talk cheesesteak options in RVA, take a peek for that too.

http://www.rvafoodie.com/2011/08/church-hills-cheesesteaks/

I’ve noticed a lot of comments about one issue in particular. I didn’t discuss in my blog, but the woman who took my order ruined what should have been a positive experience. She acted confused over the basics of what comes on a sub, what “everything” means, or what fixins would be go best since I had to yes/no each and option listed (in the end, they served me the not good to eat version w/o the everything I asked for). The communication was so awkward and difficult that I had no confidence that she was capable of relaying a basic order. And ultimately, requesting a “Cheesesteak hoagie” (as on the menu) resulted in a regular cheesesteak, without the cold veggies that come on the hoagie version that my wife wanted. I hope they get the personnel/training/customer-service issue worked out.

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Alex 09/05/2011 at 10:39 PM

Honestly, who gives a shit about what Pat’s or Geno’s do or don’t do. Last i checked, neither of them are in Richmond. If the subs at STR8 are good, they’re good regardless of what the grand high priests of cheesesteaks may have decreed. If they suck, they suck. Listening to all the folks who lived in Philly, were raised in Philly, had an uncle who lived in Philly or took a dump in Philly back in ’91 argue about the rules of the perfect cheesesteak is getting old. Just cause you dated some guy who lived in Philly for a week doesn’t mean your tastebuds are anything remarkable.

My two cents is that i haven’t had better in Richmond, they could be a little faster but overall worth the wait and a good addition to the neighborhood. If there’s a better cheesesteak in Richmond, let me know where. If there’s a better cheesesteak in Philly, i could care less cause Philly is an armpit city and not worth going to, no matter how good the sub is.

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TimH 09/05/2011 at 10:48 PM

Forget about Pat’s and Geno’s. If that’s what you want, please move back up there. While they may be the most recognizable cheese steaks in the Philadelphia area, it doesn’t make them the be all shop to imitate. My creditionals are just as good as everyone else who has commented on this page as I’ve had cheese steaks up and down the east coast and a good part of the west coast, and a few places in between. Back off on the negativity and appreciate what we have available to us now. I hope the people at Str8 out of Philly can see through the negativity and take some of the constructive criticism offered on this page. Personally, I’ve had better cheese steaks in some NJ dinners, NY pizza shops and The Reading Terminal Market than I’ve had on Passyunk Avenue. I appreciate the efforts of our local establishment, wish them well, and will give them my business regardless as to whether I think they compare to any other business, anywhere in this country, I’ve frequented.

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chimborama 09/05/2011 at 10:53 PM

I would imagine part of the reason the owner of str8 offers lettuce & tomato is that most folks down here wouldn’t know if those, or if bacon & guacamole for that matter, go on a cheesesteak.

I thought they were using amaroso rolls, which mojo’s does as well. that’s not that big of a deal. by the time they’re trucked down here they’ve lost their flavor (just like the tastykakes down here).

I’m from the philly area and would like to tip my hat to SOP for trying. it’s nice to have yet another choice of an eatery on the hill. for those of you who want to bust on the place and complain, Mcdonald’s is right at the bottom of the hill…

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just a neighbor 09/05/2011 at 11:40 PM

wow.

i love this place. sad to see some many haters.

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drew 09/06/2011 at 3:56 AM

I ate a st8outofphilly cheese steaks I agree there not really authentic mines was semi cold so I threw mines str8 in the garbage & the service kind of sucked but I tried the chicken philly @ omg & the regular philly cheese steaks was awsome!!!! & full of flavor & I even had a cold blue moon while waiting.

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James 09/06/2011 at 9:01 AM

I have always enjoyed this place. I also agree with those that say forget about Pat’s and Geno’s. They aren’t that great. The best Philly Cheesesteak I have ever had was made in NJ.

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StillWaiting 09/06/2011 at 9:37 AM

Really not impressed. When i went in there i was the only person there, placed my order, and told the girl at the counter id be back to pick up my order. As im leaving theres 2 other guys walking in to order food to eat there. So I go for a 10-15 minute bike ride and come back. Then i wait another 5 minutes and the guys that came in behind me get served, who also had cheesesteaks. So I wait a little longer, then i look through the window to see whats up with my order and it looks like they just put my meat on the grill. Another 5 minutes and ive go by, two more orders placed after mine go out, and then I get my food.

No Apologies for the 30 minute wait.

Then I get home to see a soggy sub, they atleast got my order right, but its just not very good. The bread tasted stale, they didnt use provolone.

In the trash after a few bites.

I mean really I could have gotten takeout all the way from blacksheep in the time it took to get my order.

I love supporting church hill businesses, but STR8 really needs to work on its timing and customer service

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wobobee 09/06/2011 at 10:29 AM

“Authenticity” aside, my counterpart and I have enjoyed the sandwiches we’ve gotten here. We’ve ordered from them four times now. But “enjoyment” aside, they have not once gotten our toppings correct. And when we called in a few days ago, it was as if the girl had never taken an order over the phone. A list of four toppings caused utter confusion, and had to be repeated several times. Of course, when we picked up, the toppings were incorrect yet again. I really like these guys and want them to succeed, but they are trying my patience…

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RVAfoodie 09/06/2011 at 10:51 AM

Wish I’d proofread my comment. Despite the typos, I was saying that I had to compensate for the employee’s confusion by customizing my sandwich item by item. I think most customers just want the experts in the back to make it how it should be served, whatever the restaurant. So, you need someone out front who can project the competence of the establishment. Anywho, carry on.

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irishurbanchick 09/06/2011 at 12:18 PM

The Ice Man is right. I grew up in Philly – 27th and Allegheny. I always considered Pat’s and Geno’s (RIP Geno) a tourist trap. They offer the Whiz, but the standard Philly fare is what Delasandro’s offers – American cheese and always an Amaroso roll. Interesting comments, so I’m looking forward to my own pizza steak taste test!

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Luke 09/06/2011 at 2:17 PM

Alex –

Your argument that you haven’t had better in Richmond and therefore, back off with the negativity, is likely one of the reasons that mediocrity is so easily accepted in this town. If a place sucks, it doesn’t matter if there are no better options! It still sucks!

People rave about restaurants that are merely mediocre (The Roosevelt, for example) and I have yet to read anything that even comes close to harsh criticism of restaurants in newspaper restaurant reviews, leading me to the conclusion that I can’t trust anything I read about any of the restaurants in this town.

I have a friend who used to work in the restaurant biz who told me that everyone is reluctant to call it like it us about sub-par establishments because restaurants struggle mightily to be successful. This constant coddling is doing few any favors – maybe the restauranteurs who half-ass their efforts, but certainly not the patrons. Supporting a business publicly and financially because it’s a “good addition to the community” and because you want to support local businesses makes it impossible for others looking for a good meal to separate the wheat from the chaff. Looking at online reviews of restaurants in this town, it is impossible to filter outstanding establishments (of which there are few) from the vast majority of mediocrity, and it’s all because everybody wants to kumbaya and support their local establishments against every bit of good sense. Furthermore, what incentive is there for businesses to improve if they’ve got 40 minute waits every weekend night when they can’t even provide the basics of good food and service?

People like you do nothing but help keep a bunch of lousy places in business in locations that could be used by businesses that wish to achieve excellence, and it’s people like you whose actions are responsible for pushing this town towards being an armpit itself.

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Brett 09/06/2011 at 2:44 PM

It’s hard to go wrong with the 5 buck lunch combo.

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JD 09/06/2011 at 3:59 PM

I rarely meet a cheesesteak I despise (and I’ve enjoyed many, including Geno’s, Pat’s, Subway, Quizno’s and a number of mom and pop places in between). STR8 Out Of Philly offers a tasty steak for a reasonable price so there really isn’t too much to complain about. With that being said, I can’t comment on the erratic operating hours.

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Intune 09/06/2011 at 4:02 PM

been twice- long wait both times, first time, food was great, second time- not good at all, funny thing, I ordered same thing both times… have tried both times to call and order ahead, but goes straight to voice mail so you don’t know when they pick up message??

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Alex 09/06/2011 at 5:33 PM

@26 – I think you misread my post slightly. I didn’t say that we shouldn’t call a turd a turd. My point was that making comparisons to what someone remembers of Geno’s or some other sub in Philly is irrelevant to whether something is worth eating.

For one, their recollection of stuff they ate in the past is probably a little off and tainted by hype about how perfect those subs are. Listening to some of the posts on here, you’d think that Jesus Christ bakes the bread for Pat’s fresh every three minutes with holy water and then slaughters a sacred cow to make the steak. I have eaten there before and didn’t remember them being the life altering experiences that one would think after reading these posts.

The other reason I was saying that these may not be the best benchmark is that none of us are able to drive to Philly everyday even if they were perfect. So what does it matter if some shop in Philly did even have the perfect cheesesteak?

At the end of the day, is STR8 worth spending money on? I think so but you should use your own experience as a guide. If you think not, call it a turd and I won’t argue since you are entitled to that opinion. Is it less good than another option in Richmond? If you think it is, tell me what’s better. Is it a decent sub that is the best you’ll find here and worth picking up if you want a cheesesteak but maybe lacking in some regards? Give them some constructive feedback but be grateful that they opened here.

If you check the threads on Buffington’s, you’ll see I’ve been willing to call out local businesses that serve shit. That said, I have worked in the food business for a lot of years and know it’s not easy to please everyone so I do show some respect for a business that tries. If we are all a bunch of nasty hater assholes, who will want to fill all those vacant buildings?

Be decent to those who do venture up here and work with the ones who are willing to take feedback to help them serve you better. I’m not saying anyone should lie about the quality of the food but I would hope that people could provide constructive feedback rather than random posts about what makes the perfect cheesesteak.

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crd 09/06/2011 at 7:50 PM

Alex #30, well put IMHO. I had my first sub from there today, a neighbor got carry-out for lunch. I ate the roasted veggie and it was pretty good. Neighbor was a little upset because they were a bit soggy, but they were still edible and good value considering the quantity. Didn’t ask her how long the wait time was but have heard from others that the wait time is a bit long, same complaints as posted here about it.

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elena 09/06/2011 at 8:30 PM

Well it seems if a business is touting itself as STR8 out of Philly, the offering should be what one would enjoy in Philly. Give it a break Alex. He who states everyone else is being negative. Well if it isn’t the pot…

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drew 09/06/2011 at 9:05 PM

I bet 19 is the girl @ the counter

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Scott Burger 09/07/2011 at 1:24 PM

Alright. How does it compare to Mojo’s on Laurel St.?

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MrsAlex 09/07/2011 at 2:45 PM

#32 elena- Even if this place doesn’t exactly duplicate the experience at Pat’s or Geno’s, it is well within the spectrum of what one can expect at your typical corner cheesesteak shop in Philly. Not all cheesesteaks, even in Philly, are exactly identical.

Yes, they have some extra toppings available (like lettuce and tomato), but I don’t think the owners are trying to say that is what makes a cheesesteak authentic. I think they have the toppings in the kitchen for hoagies, and are just trying to say they are willing to make it any way you want it. If your priority is getting an authentic Philly-style cheesesteak, then order it that way.

Also, for what it’s worth, a few weeks ago, my family was visiting from the Philly area, and we treated them to cheesesteaks for lunch. They all said the cheesesteaks were delicious. I don’t think living near Pat’s and Geno’s makes them expert cheesesteak critics, but just want to point out that these cheesesteaks passed muster with a group who regularly eat the real thing.

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James 09/07/2011 at 3:01 PM

Scott,
When I last had it, I thought it was better than Mojo’s. The beef had more flavor and it had the right amount of cheese. That said, I do like Mojo’s. I never had any issues with soggy bread. There is always a small expectation that the bread will be moist. After all, you are eating grease filled meat with grease filled cheese.

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Brett 09/07/2011 at 4:08 PM

Ugh, Scott.

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Just a neighbor 09/08/2011 at 12:20 AM

Drew…you are dead wrong. I’ve been there twice, delivery once, work for RPS.

Nice try at conspiracy though.

I have to admit, I’ve been to philly and find their cheesesteaks nasty. No desire to eat cheese whiz or american for that matter.

I’ve always gotten great service, esp. from the owner. Yeah, it takes a little while but I just plan ahead.

for richmond, I find them a wonderful addition. Only one other cheesesteak comes close…alladins. Delish.

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Just a neighbor 09/08/2011 at 12:21 AM

Spelled it wrong but you know what I mean.

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Luke 09/08/2011 at 10:31 AM

It’s not about being a nasty hater asshole, it’s about calling a spade a spade. That works both ways, showing both praise and criticism where they are due. If 90% of the restaurants that are filling those empty storefronts are providing mediocre food at high prices, I do not consider that a positive addition to the neighborhood. If those 90% are evaluated objectively, whether it hurts their feelings or not (as you seem to think valid criticism without abstract “encouragement” is), they are likely to suffer the financial consequences therefrom. This will have one of two results: they will be unresponsive, such as with buffington’s, and will likely go out of business, or they will adapt, improving the quality and value of the food and service they offer.

If you continue to buy food at such a poor establishment, they have no incentive to improve, and every new establishment will see success based on mediocrity and think, “why do anything different? We can cut corners, serve garbage, provide poor service, and people will flock to our restaurants.”

This is likely why the current restaurant offering in Church Hill is so poor.

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Lou 09/09/2011 at 9:49 AM

Luke,

Remind me again of your relevance?

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Alex 09/09/2011 at 9:54 AM

@40 – When did I say we needed to provide them “encouragement.” You are putting words in my mouth that I did not say.

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Luke 09/09/2011 at 7:55 PM

Relevance to what, Lou?

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Luke 09/09/2011 at 7:56 PM

Forgive me, Alex, I paraphrased.

And my name is Luke; thanks.

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Alex 09/11/2011 at 6:27 PM

@44 – Interesting that you incorrectly paraphrased my point and still put it in quotes at the same time. There’s a big difference between constructive feedback and “abstract encouragement.”

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elena 09/12/2011 at 4:06 PM

Good God Alex! Get off it already. Your whining is nauseating already.

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Alex 09/12/2011 at 10:56 PM

elena, what’s whining about trying to make sure people aren’t twisting my words? Luke was characterizing my words as something they weren’t and I am just trying to set the record straight. What the fuck’s your problem anyway? Seems like you have a personal problem with me. What did I say that offended you so badly and why do you keep inserting yourself in a conversation that I am having with another poster? All I’m asking is that Luke not misquote me.

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Andrea 09/16/2011 at 10:11 PM

Wow. Well I have to say all of this bickering actually makes me want to try it out for myself, maybe this is a good marketing scheme for them 😉 Where are they located in the Hill?

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Lou 09/17/2011 at 11:14 AM

Luke-your relevance to this topic.

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elena 09/17/2011 at 1:00 PM

Alex…I have no idea who you are. Based on your comments, I would have no desire to ever know you. You sound like a miserable p.o.s.

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Alex 09/17/2011 at 9:54 PM

Same to you. So why don’t you stop interjecting yourself when I’m talking to other people.

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laura 09/18/2011 at 4:26 PM

So Alex…are you saying that you have exclusive rights to a public blog and nobody else can weigh in? If so, that’s pretty stupid. I guess we need to consider the source.

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elena 09/18/2011 at 7:16 PM

What a complete putz!

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Lou 09/18/2011 at 8:29 PM

Don’t understand why their Facebook page doesn’t show any pics of their food.

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Alex 09/19/2011 at 8:07 AM

This thread has completely lost any point and turned into a name calling match. Sorry to anyone who actually wanted to read something related to cheesesteaks if they happened to tune into this. If anyone wants to debate cheesesteaks again, I’d be glad to rejoin the discussion. However I am losing interest in continuing the name calling with some random person who feels the need to attack me for some unknown reason. I also realize it’s obnoxious for the rest of you to have to listen to. Sorry for my role in this.

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Luke 09/19/2011 at 11:14 AM

Lou –

Same relevance you and any other poster on here has – just another poor resident of Church Hill who would like to see things get better.

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Lou 09/21/2011 at 6:30 AM

Luke-how about some cheese to go with your whine?

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