A few weeks back, a staff member from Community Development mentioned to that there is a plan for a sign in the circle that may say something to the effect of “Welcome to Church Hill”.
There has been some discussion with residents and the staffer (Tarisa Moran, who was instrumental in the recent zoning efforts in CH/UH,) to include mention of Union Hill on the same sign/sign post.
Should have included this in my previous post: the current “sign” is likely a place marker for the proposed final sign.
Just in case you couldn’t figure out what it was I guess.
As I understand it, there will be no 20+ foot signs going in the roundabout because of safety reasons (drivers need to be able to see all the way around). However, the City’s Department of Community Development is planning to place at least three “Welcome to Church Hill” signs throughout the neighborhood, one of which will likely be on 25th Street somewhere south of roundabout.
In a recent national study, the US Department of Housing and Urban Development has found that the use of signs and can be beneficial to neighborhoods and property owners. Neighborhoods with historical signs in particular resulted in a 20% increase in property value while lowering crime rates eight percent, on average. The national study included data from both residential and commerical zonings.
“We’ve gone through the data points and the benefits to citizens are clear. (Cities) could spend their budgets on street or sidewalk repairs or increase police forces or any number of tradition tactics,” said Jim Snidely, Senior Analyst with the Department of Housing and Urban Development. “Or (they) could install more signs and have the same effect.”
The full study results for residential and commercial signage will be posted online in the coming weeks.
I hear this traffic circle is hell for the busses.
There is another SIGN at Libby Hill Park, IIRC.
It’s hell for anyone stuck behind drivers who can’t grasp the concept that if there’s no traffic in the circle, they don’t need to stop.
To quote my father-in-law, the sign says “Yield,” not surrender! 🙂
#10 – so, you think slowing down to a stop and looking constitutes “surrender?” It must be hell being anywhere near where you are driving, if you think an auto is a weapon!
hear this traffic circle is hell for the busses.
The traffic circles are running neck-and-neck with the City-Council-bestowed stop signs in aggravation level for buses, fire trucks, and probably anything else over 30 feet long.
As an occassional bus rider, I have nothing but respect for the GRTC bus drivers. I am sure that dealing with the numerous dimwits traveling on Broad Street during morning and afternoon rush hour is a bigger headache for the bus drivers than the traffic circle.
As to the welcome signs to Church Hill, I think that is a great idea! Now that I think about it I have seen signs welcoming visitors to Fulton Hill and Ginter Park. They look great and provide a sense of identity. I wonder if the neighborhood will have any say on the design of the signs?
RE: #13 – Rode the bus again for the first time in a while a couple weeks ago, and noticed how calm and cool the drivers are, too! Compared with lots of cranky regular drivers they seem like total angels.
Probably helps that they are not trying to eat, talk on the phone, put on makeup, use the laptop, and yell at their kids in the backseat at the same time as drive.
Since we’re in a little GRTC-luv groove, my recent bus ride to city hall from c-h was delightful. I marveled at fellow riders happily chatting & saying farewell to the driver as they disembarked. It sure was different than all my bus/subway rides as a commuter in NYC.
As for the 25th Street Round-a-bout, I have heard there is some controversy over buses and their ability to safely navigate around it. Seems that the concrete apron is meant to be driven over by the buses. Traffic engineers designed it purposefully for the bus tires to ride up and on top of it.
However, some bus drivers/GRTC folks are concerned about the jolt that riders feel when the tires hit the apron. Concern that someone “might bump their head” is what I’ve heard.
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