nice rehab, but is that vinyl or hardiplank siding? if hardiplank (and I hope it is), i agree that a more zesty color would really show off the potential of this little gem. how about yellow with black shutters?
White on white with white accents isn’t very eye appealing and not within the Victorian era color pallets. And are those metal screens over the windows I see? I am sure the C.A.R. didn’t approve those as they indicate in their guidelines they are inappropriate and not authorized materials or additions to O&H district houses.
The BEFORE has the charm of dilapidation, but was vacant and crumbly for years. The AFTER is a clean canvas for a new owner to make in their own image.
Problem is John that many do nothing after they buy the house. And who is to say the new owner would do the “right” thing?
There are patches of missing paint on the side of the house at the corner of 21st and Marshall (the blue one) that still remains from the day of purchase after rennovation where they moved something and never covered it up. I am sure there is wood rot from it now. Small but significant example of how people take the lazy lane through shortcut city and just let it be as is.
The color is so pale in the photo that it looks like a shade of white to me.
You are so right. I’m just glad that someone put forth the effort and the money to do a renovation and save another house in the neighborhood. Whoever buys it can upgrade the exterior and interior as they would want it. BTW, the house at 21st and Marshall that Eric wants to pontificate about, is another example of a quality restoration that is a benefit to the immediate area. Maybe he should worry more about his immediate area and stop being the esthetics guru for the whole neighborhood.
I had toast with jam today, it was delicious. Rather made for a pleasant day to begin the morning with such a wholesome and fecal-free breakfast, actually.
I don’t know what number M street this is, but my understanding is that the O&H designation doesn’t cover ALL of Church Hill. If it did, CAR would have been all over the owner at the first sign of renovation.
Even though it’s a bit bland, it’s still nice that an old building has been saved.
Eric – chill out! It’s better now than it was. MUCH better.
John M. – toast with jam, my new breakfast food. As always, thanks for all you do. Including breakfast, this time!
Bill Hartsock – I’m not sure which house at 21st and Marshall you are targeting, but there is only one I can think of there. If it’s the same one, it’s finished for now, and rented, so I’m hoping that the leaning house at – what’s the intersection, 22nd and Marshall – gets saved.
delete delete delete “I almost posted” about people being killed by a quake in Italy … but still, can we get our priorites straight here, folks?! Come on, it looks better now, end of post.
Eric writes “There are patches of missing paint on the side of the house at the corner of 21st and Marshall (the blue one) that still remains from the day of purchase after rennovation where they moved something and never covered it up. I am sure there is wood rot from it now. Small but significant example of how people take the lazy lane through shortcut city and just let it be as is.”
Eric – that house was done by RBVa, and is rented. Why don’t you just call up David Cooley at his place of busines and tell him that he has “patches of missing paint” and engage him in conversation? That house was leaning seriously before he stabilized it, and, trust me, he is NOT covering up “wood rot” as you claim. Go ahead, call him, he’s in the phone book. I want to hear your explanation after you talk to him abouto how you are so sure he’s covered up “wood rot.”
Actually the house at 21st and Marshall is the one that Eric, the diva, was targeting. The address is 2105 E. Marshall and is a beautiful restoration, courtesy of David Cooley, who has done many “miracles” in Church Hill (think the leaner on 21st St., 3102 E. Broad and the row at 210-214 N. 29th). Rumor has it that he has is sights set on the leaner at 22nd and Marshall. God bless him!
Is it kinda blah color-wise to me in the photo? Yeah. Am I gonna start snarking on the person who took the time and trouble to restore as much of that house as they did? Or start complaining about a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT HOUSE? Um no.
Some people had some Crappios for breakfast, but not John.
From someone who has looked at the “before” house outside my window for 10 years, I like it much better now. I just hope the person who buys the house actually lives in it and doesn’t rent it out. Otherwise it may start looking like the “before” picture real quick.
I love the final product. The fencing, small details and overall quality (and yes, it is hardiplank) of the renovation make this a real gem in the neighborhood. Thank you for renovating this home!
I have discovered that there are places in town where one can go and buy this stuff called “paint” in many different colors. A homeowner can buy this stuff and actually change the color of the property he or she owns (Well, maybe not in an O & H District). It’s really pretty amazing for those people who obsess over the color of someone else’s house.
David-
I’m always amused when I see people on the HGTV shows slamming a property because they don’t like the wall colors (and end up paying $20K more for a different house with better colors). Because they haven’t got forty bucks and a weekend? And perhaps some imagination?
Hey all, sorry to start a diatribe. I’m thrilled, of course, that another Churdh Hill house got done, I just love the fun colors that are allowable outside of the O&H district, like that orange house in Union Hill — it reminds me of a creamsicle. I’m not suggesting that this renovator paint the house orange, but just saying that the older version had its charm as well.
Ahhhh, progress. And some of you are still bitchin’.
It’s a damn sight better than what it was and kudos to the person that risked their own money to do this.
If you don’t like the color, buy it and paint it another color-something we can all agree on and like. I’m sure you could get a couple of opinions as to a new color.
I swear some of you would prefer to sit in the dark as opposed to change the light bulb.
2708 M is a cute and creative renovation of a place that had very little potential. They eeked two bedrooms & a bath upstairs, a half bath downstairs, and a washer/dryer just of the kitchen. And it’s on the market for what I think is a relatively reasonable $140k plus some cash to the buyer for landscaping or… painting.
Now that 2701, 2703, and 2708 M are fixed up, and we got the drug dealers and hookers out of 703 North 27th, this little corner of CHNO&H is looking pretty and feeling pretty nice.
The *only* problem I have with 2708 is that I didn’t buy it from Miss Daisy’s sisters when she died in 1996. Our garden behind 701 North 27th would be twice the size that it is now. ;)
Glad to see that they used Hardi plank. It’s got a nice clean appearance. The brick was nice but unfortunately sometimes there is nothing you can do or you can spend a fortune repairing/replacing the brick.
The fence in front and the one redone on the side really frame the houses well and show off the brick sidewalk – subtle landscaping.
I would be the happiest homeowner in Church Hill if “patches of missing paint” was the only thing i could find to complain about when i step onto my Chimborazo Blvd porch, only to find that the backdrop for my well manicured garden is several dilapidated brick buildings doubling as neighborhood pharmacies and porch BBQ hangouts.
A lot of you guys all sound like a bunch of whiny little bitches. Somebody fixed up an eyesore, and did a heck of a job. I ride around the neighborhood all day long looking at blighted houses, and this one seems well done. No uneven siding, nice fence…for crissake…it’s on M St.! M St. is like the expressway through the neighborhood. So who the hell puts along looking at the goddamn scenery when you can drive unabated, down a street, through a neighborhood that has 4-way stops on every corner. If I was selling that house, would I paint it some uber-cool color? Hell no. It will sell faster as a bland color that anyone can adapt to.
Actually I prefer the before on this one, The after seems so blah!
I kind of like the “before” as well, but kudos, for fixing it up, along with the fencing! It still does look nice.
very nice job, looks like a ball field in the back ground
I think it’s the color (or lack thereof)
nice rehab, but is that vinyl or hardiplank siding? if hardiplank (and I hope it is), i agree that a more zesty color would really show off the potential of this little gem. how about yellow with black shutters?
White on white with white accents isn’t very eye appealing and not within the Victorian era color pallets. And are those metal screens over the windows I see? I am sure the C.A.R. didn’t approve those as they indicate in their guidelines they are inappropriate and not authorized materials or additions to O&H district houses.
Check out the larger version of the photo – that’s not white-on-white, it is a nice pale color.
The BEFORE has the charm of dilapidation, but was vacant and crumbly for years. The AFTER is a clean canvas for a new owner to make in their own image.
Problem is John that many do nothing after they buy the house. And who is to say the new owner would do the “right” thing?
There are patches of missing paint on the side of the house at the corner of 21st and Marshall (the blue one) that still remains from the day of purchase after rennovation where they moved something and never covered it up. I am sure there is wood rot from it now. Small but significant example of how people take the lazy lane through shortcut city and just let it be as is.
The color is so pale in the photo that it looks like a shade of white to me.
It seems that for many people their default option is to be so damn nitpicky and negative.
Who shit in your cereal John? Or have you been taking asshole lessons from Buddy Corbitt?
I guess opinions are a no-no around here now and official rules and guidelines concerning O&H have no significance any longer?
John,
You are so right. I’m just glad that someone put forth the effort and the money to do a renovation and save another house in the neighborhood. Whoever buys it can upgrade the exterior and interior as they would want it. BTW, the house at 21st and Marshall that Eric wants to pontificate about, is another example of a quality restoration that is a benefit to the immediate area. Maybe he should worry more about his immediate area and stop being the esthetics guru for the whole neighborhood.
John- Agreed!! And don’t forget an expert on everything.
I had toast with jam today, it was delicious. Rather made for a pleasant day to begin the morning with such a wholesome and fecal-free breakfast, actually.
I don’t know what number M street this is, but my understanding is that the O&H designation doesn’t cover ALL of Church Hill. If it did, CAR would have been all over the owner at the first sign of renovation.
Even though it’s a bit bland, it’s still nice that an old building has been saved.
This house is at 2708 M Street, and is inside the boundaries of the Church Hill North Old & Historic District.
(Map of city O&H districts PDF.)
mmmmmmmmm.. jaaaaaammmmm….mmmmmmm
Whatchu talkin bout john?!? I eat sh*t like these complainers for breakfast!
Its part of my balanced diet of complainers, CAVEs, and NIMBYs.
Eric – chill out! It’s better now than it was. MUCH better.
John M. – toast with jam, my new breakfast food. As always, thanks for all you do. Including breakfast, this time!
Bill Hartsock – I’m not sure which house at 21st and Marshall you are targeting, but there is only one I can think of there. If it’s the same one, it’s finished for now, and rented, so I’m hoping that the leaning house at – what’s the intersection, 22nd and Marshall – gets saved.
delete delete delete “I almost posted” about people being killed by a quake in Italy … but still, can we get our priorites straight here, folks?! Come on, it looks better now, end of post.
Actually, it sounds like eric ate the shit-cereal this morning!
People take color so damn seriously. Just because it’s not your personal taste, does not make it wrong.
Eric writes “There are patches of missing paint on the side of the house at the corner of 21st and Marshall (the blue one) that still remains from the day of purchase after rennovation where they moved something and never covered it up. I am sure there is wood rot from it now. Small but significant example of how people take the lazy lane through shortcut city and just let it be as is.”
Eric – that house was done by RBVa, and is rented. Why don’t you just call up David Cooley at his place of busines and tell him that he has “patches of missing paint” and engage him in conversation? That house was leaning seriously before he stabilized it, and, trust me, he is NOT covering up “wood rot” as you claim. Go ahead, call him, he’s in the phone book. I want to hear your explanation after you talk to him abouto how you are so sure he’s covered up “wood rot.”
crd,
Actually the house at 21st and Marshall is the one that Eric, the diva, was targeting. The address is 2105 E. Marshall and is a beautiful restoration, courtesy of David Cooley, who has done many “miracles” in Church Hill (think the leaner on 21st St., 3102 E. Broad and the row at 210-214 N. 29th). Rumor has it that he has is sights set on the leaner at 22nd and Marshall. God bless him!
Is it kinda blah color-wise to me in the photo? Yeah. Am I gonna start snarking on the person who took the time and trouble to restore as much of that house as they did? Or start complaining about a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT HOUSE? Um no.
Some people had some Crappios for breakfast, but not John.
crd, those italians had to suffer cause they choose the wrong paint color
From someone who has looked at the “before” house outside my window for 10 years, I like it much better now. I just hope the person who buys the house actually lives in it and doesn’t rent it out. Otherwise it may start looking like the “before” picture real quick.
I live a block and a half from there, and I prefer the after, whatever color it is.
I love the final product. The fencing, small details and overall quality (and yes, it is hardiplank) of the renovation make this a real gem in the neighborhood. Thank you for renovating this home!
I have discovered that there are places in town where one can go and buy this stuff called “paint” in many different colors. A homeowner can buy this stuff and actually change the color of the property he or she owns (Well, maybe not in an O & H District). It’s really pretty amazing for those people who obsess over the color of someone else’s house.
David-
I’m always amused when I see people on the HGTV shows slamming a property because they don’t like the wall colors (and end up paying $20K more for a different house with better colors). Because they haven’t got forty bucks and a weekend? And perhaps some imagination?
Hey all, sorry to start a diatribe. I’m thrilled, of course, that another Churdh Hill house got done, I just love the fun colors that are allowable outside of the O&H district, like that orange house in Union Hill — it reminds me of a creamsicle. I’m not suggesting that this renovator paint the house orange, but just saying that the older version had its charm as well.
Ahhhh, progress. And some of you are still bitchin’.
It’s a damn sight better than what it was and kudos to the person that risked their own money to do this.
If you don’t like the color, buy it and paint it another color-something we can all agree on and like. I’m sure you could get a couple of opinions as to a new color.
I swear some of you would prefer to sit in the dark as opposed to change the light bulb.
2708 M is a cute and creative renovation of a place that had very little potential. They eeked two bedrooms & a bath upstairs, a half bath downstairs, and a washer/dryer just of the kitchen. And it’s on the market for what I think is a relatively reasonable $140k plus some cash to the buyer for landscaping or… painting.
Now that 2701, 2703, and 2708 M are fixed up, and we got the drug dealers and hookers out of 703 North 27th, this little corner of CHNO&H is looking pretty and feeling pretty nice.
The *only* problem I have with 2708 is that I didn’t buy it from Miss Daisy’s sisters when she died in 1996. Our garden behind 701 North 27th would be twice the size that it is now. ;)
Glad to see that they used Hardi plank. It’s got a nice clean appearance. The brick was nice but unfortunately sometimes there is nothing you can do or you can spend a fortune repairing/replacing the brick.
The fence in front and the one redone on the side really frame the houses well and show off the brick sidewalk – subtle landscaping.
I hope someone makes it their happy home soon.
That wasn’t real brick in the BEFORE, that was ghetto brick.
I just clicked on the before picture.
:O
Yuck… I hate that stuff!!! Applause, applause for getting rid of that!
Actually that ghetto brick preserved the original wood underneath for a lotta years
That asbestos siding is all over Church Hill. There’s really not that much brick around north of Broad – it’s nearly all balloon-frame.
I would be the happiest homeowner in Church Hill if “patches of missing paint” was the only thing i could find to complain about when i step onto my Chimborazo Blvd porch, only to find that the backdrop for my well manicured garden is several dilapidated brick buildings doubling as neighborhood pharmacies and porch BBQ hangouts.
I love these before and after pictures. Any chance anyone can find a before photo for 2703 M Street? It’s right across the street from this one.
Jessica – check this out. Click the photos to view larger.
Thanks john for the last post, I was wondering what those two homes used to look like. I’m happy to see that the blue home is now under contract!
A lot of you guys all sound like a bunch of whiny little bitches. Somebody fixed up an eyesore, and did a heck of a job. I ride around the neighborhood all day long looking at blighted houses, and this one seems well done. No uneven siding, nice fence…for crissake…it’s on M St.! M St. is like the expressway through the neighborhood. So who the hell puts along looking at the goddamn scenery when you can drive unabated, down a street, through a neighborhood that has 4-way stops on every corner. If I was selling that house, would I paint it some uber-cool color? Hell no. It will sell faster as a bland color that anyone can adapt to.
hey Jessica,
click on this link & then hit street view – spin the view to across the street and you’ll see the boarded up before of 2703 M st.
Thanks John and Deanna!
Sorry to respond so much later, but back in April I didn’t want to mention I’d just put in an offer and jinx it.