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	<title>Comments on: Dotts officially seeking interim appointment</title>
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		<title>By: Old School</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2009/01/06/dotts-officially-seeking-interim-appointment_3735/comment-page-3/#comment-80404</link>
		<dc:creator>Old School</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will citizens ever know what the questions were?  What the responses were? How the questions were weighted? Or, are we just supposed to sit around like a bunch of little kids waiting to be told what is best for us? 

Hey, Joe, I&#039;m glad Ron outted Robertson for the sake of opennnes in government, but sometimes he seems like such a sneaky, stuck-up individual all the time telling us what is &quot;best&quot; for us and how smart he thinks Council is.   

Like you, I am tired of being talked down to ......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will citizens ever know what the questions were?  What the responses were? How the questions were weighted? Or, are we just supposed to sit around like a bunch of little kids waiting to be told what is best for us? </p>
<p>Hey, Joe, I&#8217;m glad Ron outted Robertson for the sake of opennnes in government, but sometimes he seems like such a sneaky, stuck-up individual all the time telling us what is &#8220;best&#8221; for us and how smart he thinks Council is.   </p>
<p>Like you, I am tired of being talked down to &#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JoeRichmond</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeRichmond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron, 

You write:  &quot;Council is attempting to make a political process empirical, which probably will make all advocates mad.&quot;

The only thing I have heard advocated in this blog has been that the appointment be a bonafide resident of the district.  And, now that Newbille has opted to run for the office and not seek the appointment, the discussion has been simply that -- a discussion of merits.  

Since CC is keeping the public out (we can&#039; be trusted to be empirical?), where doyou or the members of CC get off talking down to us as if we are a bunch of fools? 

BTW, what does Robertson think about the way you outed her e-mail to the players involved with the stadium?  Does she know what you did?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron, </p>
<p>You write:  &#8220;Council is attempting to make a political process empirical, which probably will make all advocates mad.&#8221;</p>
<p>The only thing I have heard advocated in this blog has been that the appointment be a bonafide resident of the district.  And, now that Newbille has opted to run for the office and not seek the appointment, the discussion has been simply that &#8212; a discussion of merits.  </p>
<p>Since CC is keeping the public out (we can&#8217; be trusted to be empirical?), where doyou or the members of CC get off talking down to us as if we are a bunch of fools? </p>
<p>BTW, what does Robertson think about the way you outed her e-mail to the players involved with the stadium?  Does she know what you did?</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 13:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Appointment Process:
   Starting at 4 pm today, city council will begin to interview the 10 candidates who submitted a response to the questionaire propounded by council, and which has previously been posted.  During the interview each candidate will have a chance to make a statement, and will be asked to respond to four questions.  Based on application, questionaire, interview and question responses, each member of council will score each candidate numerically.  There will be three candidates selected as the higest scorers.  Those three will then be the subejct of a recalculation; council will think about it, and next Monday make the appointment. Council is attempting to make a political process empirical, which probably will make all advocates mad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appointment Process:<br />
   Starting at 4 pm today, city council will begin to interview the 10 candidates who submitted a response to the questionaire propounded by council, and which has previously been posted.  During the interview each candidate will have a chance to make a statement, and will be asked to respond to four questions.  Based on application, questionaire, interview and question responses, each member of council will score each candidate numerically.  There will be three candidates selected as the higest scorers.  Those three will then be the subejct of a recalculation; council will think about it, and next Monday make the appointment. Council is attempting to make a political process empirical, which probably will make all advocates mad.</p>
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		<title>By: bill2</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anthony, welcome to the real world. what is it that qualifies you as a professional? if you have &quot;great&quot; respect for the city council you are either not informed or you are guilty of all unfavorable allegations. talk to the hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anthony, welcome to the real world. what is it that qualifies you as a professional? if you have &#8220;great&#8221; respect for the city council you are either not informed or you are guilty of all unfavorable allegations. talk to the hand.</p>
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		<title>By: The real Anthony Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>The real Anthony Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently came across the Church Hill blog and noticed that my name was smeared and false accusations were made about a posting that was written on January 8th by chgal.  Let me first of all say that I am offended that this other individual with my namesake has been mistaken for me.  Upon clicking on the posting written by him, the email address of an Anthony Young appears.  I would like to clear my name but also comment that chgal your statements are unfounded and inaccurate.  I&#039;ve never &quot;bad mouthed&quot; anyone and have great respect for all members of the council.   As a professional and involved citizen of the community I am baffled by these statements and accusations and I would like to meet with anyone who would like to discuss ideas, not smear tactics and attacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently came across the Church Hill blog and noticed that my name was smeared and false accusations were made about a posting that was written on January 8th by chgal.  Let me first of all say that I am offended that this other individual with my namesake has been mistaken for me.  Upon clicking on the posting written by him, the email address of an Anthony Young appears.  I would like to clear my name but also comment that chgal your statements are unfounded and inaccurate.  I&#8217;ve never &#8220;bad mouthed&#8221; anyone and have great respect for all members of the council.   As a professional and involved citizen of the community I am baffled by these statements and accusations and I would like to meet with anyone who would like to discuss ideas, not smear tactics and attacks.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently came across this post on Church Hill blog and noticed that my name was smeared and false accusations were made about a posting that was written on January 8th by chgal.  Let me first of all say that I am offended that this other individual with my namesake has been mistaken for me.  Upon clicking on the posting written by him, the email address of an Anthony Young appears.  I would like to clear my name but also comment that chgal your statements are unfounded and inaccurate.  I&#039;ve never &quot;bad mouthed&quot; anyone and have great respect for all members of the council.   As a professional and involved citizen of the community I am baffled by these statements and accusations and I would like to meet with anyone who would like to discuss ideas, not smear tactics and attacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently came across this post on Church Hill blog and noticed that my name was smeared and false accusations were made about a posting that was written on January 8th by chgal.  Let me first of all say that I am offended that this other individual with my namesake has been mistaken for me.  Upon clicking on the posting written by him, the email address of an Anthony Young appears.  I would like to clear my name but also comment that chgal your statements are unfounded and inaccurate.  I&#8217;ve never &#8220;bad mouthed&#8221; anyone and have great respect for all members of the council.   As a professional and involved citizen of the community I am baffled by these statements and accusations and I would like to meet with anyone who would like to discuss ideas, not smear tactics and attacks.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeRichmond</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2009/01/06/dotts-officially-seeking-interim-appointment_3735/comment-page-3/#comment-75560</link>
		<dc:creator>JoeRichmond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. I am suggesting that you &quot;think&quot; it through.  Think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. I am suggesting that you &#8220;think&#8221; it through.  Think.</p>
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		<title>By: tiny</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you mean?  I merely making an observation that a lot of comments reflect strong racial tensions.  Are you suggesting that I should not comment about this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you mean?  I merely making an observation that a lot of comments reflect strong racial tensions.  Are you suggesting that I should not comment about this?</p>
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		<title>By: JoeRichmond</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeRichmond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gray gets it, Tiny.   &quot;A city with the majority being poor will only increase poverty but maybe the powers at-be want that.....&quot;   

It is easy to &quot;see&quot; the racial piece.  But, please take a moment and &quot;think&quot; it through.  If you do, then you will encourage others to &quot;see&quot; beyond the color line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gray gets it, Tiny.   &#8220;A city with the majority being poor will only increase poverty but maybe the powers at-be want that&#8230;..&#8221;   </p>
<p>It is easy to &#8220;see&#8221; the racial piece.  But, please take a moment and &#8220;think&#8221; it through.  If you do, then you will encourage others to &#8220;see&#8221; beyond the color line.</p>
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		<title>By: gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#102 Ron, My friends and family members with children making under $65k a year are struggling to support themselves in the city and in the county where, as you know, real estate taxes and sales taxes are significantly less and the public education is better.

High city property taxes and poor public education chases out the lower to middle classes to the county which leaves Richmond with the extremes of upper classes and a huge poor population which hurts the public schools.  The rich send their kids to private schools meaning less federal and state dollars flowing into public education and the poor go to school with the poor.  To see how bad it can get, just take a look at middle schools in Richmond -that&#039;s what happens when the working class citizens pack up and leave.

Eric, I agree with your number of $30k without children.  Maybe there should be some kind of sliding scale for real estate taxes like the one the YMCA uses for memberships.  Their monthly fees for family memberships start dropping for those making under $60k.

Ron, Our family is of the educated working class and living in this city in the east end with children is &quot;sleepless nights&quot; stressful.  Our taxes are high, our public schools are unsuitable, and private school and college tuition well out of our range; and if we fall ill, we lose our health insurance that we&#039;ve paid monthly for years (I guess that&#039;s what you get for being self-employed).  I&#039;ve been talking to a lot of working class citizens and we are tired of paying welfare to the mega wealthy (bailouts, etc) and poor, only to be a hair away from the poor house ourselves.  Now don&#039;t get me wrong, I&#039;m not against helping the poor, I just don&#039;t believe it&#039;s right to rest the burden on those struggling not to slide into poverty themselves.

Ron, I don&#039;t know what services to cut but if we start attracting the working and middle classes like the counties do, the city will naturally pull in more dollars through sales, services, property/real estate taxes; and the public schools would also see an increase in student population thus an increase in funds.  A city with the majority being poor will only increase poverty but maybe the powers at-be want that.  Reminds me of my history lessons in Latin American dictatorships.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#102 Ron, My friends and family members with children making under $65k a year are struggling to support themselves in the city and in the county where, as you know, real estate taxes and sales taxes are significantly less and the public education is better.</p>
<p>High city property taxes and poor public education chases out the lower to middle classes to the county which leaves Richmond with the extremes of upper classes and a huge poor population which hurts the public schools.  The rich send their kids to private schools meaning less federal and state dollars flowing into public education and the poor go to school with the poor.  To see how bad it can get, just take a look at middle schools in Richmond -that&#8217;s what happens when the working class citizens pack up and leave.</p>
<p>Eric, I agree with your number of $30k without children.  Maybe there should be some kind of sliding scale for real estate taxes like the one the YMCA uses for memberships.  Their monthly fees for family memberships start dropping for those making under $60k.</p>
<p>Ron, Our family is of the educated working class and living in this city in the east end with children is &#8220;sleepless nights&#8221; stressful.  Our taxes are high, our public schools are unsuitable, and private school and college tuition well out of our range; and if we fall ill, we lose our health insurance that we&#8217;ve paid monthly for years (I guess that&#8217;s what you get for being self-employed).  I&#8217;ve been talking to a lot of working class citizens and we are tired of paying welfare to the mega wealthy (bailouts, etc) and poor, only to be a hair away from the poor house ourselves.  Now don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;m not against helping the poor, I just don&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s right to rest the burden on those struggling not to slide into poverty themselves.</p>
<p>Ron, I don&#8217;t know what services to cut but if we start attracting the working and middle classes like the counties do, the city will naturally pull in more dollars through sales, services, property/real estate taxes; and the public schools would also see an increase in student population thus an increase in funds.  A city with the majority being poor will only increase poverty but maybe the powers at-be want that.  Reminds me of my history lessons in Latin American dictatorships.</p>
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		<title>By: tiny</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, I am glad you feel like this issue isn&#039;t racially, but it seems that many poster DO think the issue is racial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, I am glad you feel like this issue isn&#8217;t racially, but it seems that many poster DO think the issue is racial.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeRichmond</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2009/01/06/dotts-officially-seeking-interim-appointment_3735/comment-page-3/#comment-75476</link>
		<dc:creator>JoeRichmond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books?id=cAMDJoVrzcUC&amp;pg=PA59&amp;lpg=PA59&amp;ots=JLrlpnwOYV&amp;dq=%22Richmond+Crusade+for+Voters%22+%22henry+marsh%22&amp;ie=ISO-8859-1&amp;output=html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://books.google.com/books?id=cAMDJoVrzcUC&amp;pg=PA59&amp;l...&lt;/a&gt;

Tiny, Read the entire chapter:  
&quot;There is no Refuge in Conservatism&quot;

The issue isn&#039;t racial as much as it is how poor and middle class BLACK AND WHITE people have been DOMINATED by CONSERVATIVE politicoes BLACK AND WHITE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=cAMDJoVrzcUC&amp;pg=PA59&amp;lpg=PA59&amp;ots=JLrlpnwOYV&amp;dq=%22Richmond+Crusade+for+Voters%22+%22henry+marsh%22&amp;ie=ISO-8859-1&amp;output=html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=cAMDJoVrzcUC&amp;pg=PA59&amp;l.." rel="nofollow">http://books.google.com/books?id=cAMDJoVrzcUC&amp;pg=PA59&amp;l..</a>.</p>
<p>Tiny, Read the entire chapter:<br />
&#8220;There is no Refuge in Conservatism&#8221;</p>
<p>The issue isn&#8217;t racial as much as it is how poor and middle class BLACK AND WHITE people have been DOMINATED by CONSERVATIVE politicoes BLACK AND WHITE.</p>
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		<title>By: tiny</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops - of course I mean &quot;are NOT directed&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops &#8211; of course I mean &#8220;are NOT directed&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: tiny</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I am not assuming anything.  My comments are directed to a single person, but are broad observations.

I am a little disturbed by some of the racial comments on this thread.  I really thought the we as a community had overcome a lot of these racial tensions.  I can only hope that by the spotlight this forum sheds on this issue will leading to healing and tolerance in our neighborhood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I am not assuming anything.  My comments are directed to a single person, but are broad observations.</p>
<p>I am a little disturbed by some of the racial comments on this thread.  I really thought the we as a community had overcome a lot of these racial tensions.  I can only hope that by the spotlight this forum sheds on this issue will leading to healing and tolerance in our neighborhood.</p>
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		<title>By: tiny</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Henry Marsh exerts considerable influence, we still ELECT our public officials here in Richmond.  I am sure Marsh serves as advisor and often plays a role in local policy decisions, but it is still the voters who decide who is elected to office.  

McQuinn has been re-elected over and over again by huge margins.  In these elections, she always faced strong opponents, yet the voters continue to vote her back in.  Clearly, the majority of voters in this district is satisfied with her service and show up at the ballot box to voice their support.  They vote because they think she does a good job, not because they have all been mass-brainwashed by the â€œMarsh Machineâ€.

I know many people oppose McQuinn and it is certainly their right to express their opposition.  I am simply pointing out the fact that McQuinn and her son J.J. enjoy great support by the majority of her constituents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Henry Marsh exerts considerable influence, we still ELECT our public officials here in Richmond.  I am sure Marsh serves as advisor and often plays a role in local policy decisions, but it is still the voters who decide who is elected to office.  </p>
<p>McQuinn has been re-elected over and over again by huge margins.  In these elections, she always faced strong opponents, yet the voters continue to vote her back in.  Clearly, the majority of voters in this district is satisfied with her service and show up at the ballot box to voice their support.  They vote because they think she does a good job, not because they have all been mass-brainwashed by the â€œMarsh Machineâ€.</p>
<p>I know many people oppose McQuinn and it is certainly their right to express their opposition.  I am simply pointing out the fact that McQuinn and her son J.J. enjoy great support by the majority of her constituents.</p>
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