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		<title>By: Church Hill People&#039;s News &#187; New restaurant at old Que Pasa? - Richmond, Virginia</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-231246</link>
		<dc:creator>Church Hill People&#039;s News &#187; New restaurant at old Que Pasa? - Richmond, Virginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 01:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] potential issue is that the opening of Que Pasa was reliant upon a Special Use Permit (for a parking waiver). A clause in the original SUP causes it to expire with the sale of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] potential issue is that the opening of Que Pasa was reliant upon a Special Use Permit (for a parking waiver). A clause in the original SUP causes it to expire with the sale of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: j</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-11115</link>
		<dc:creator>j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 10:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From business licenses posted on the Times-Dispatch web site Dec. 10:

Dit of Virginia (restaurant); licensee John T. Sanchez, 623 N. 25th St., Richmond 23223</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From business licenses posted on the Times-Dispatch web site Dec. 10:</p>
<p>Dit of Virginia (restaurant); licensee John T. Sanchez, 623 N. 25th St., Richmond 23223</p>
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		<title>By: Church Hill People&#8217;s News &#187; 7th District Mayor&#8217;s Roundtable meeting - Richmond, Virginia</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-8276</link>
		<dc:creator>Church Hill People&#8217;s News &#187; 7th District Mayor&#8217;s Roundtable meeting - Richmond, Virginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that gains made in housing can be sustained. I brought up that is seemed like it was difficult for new businesses to open, even with community [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that gains made in housing can be sustained. I brought up that is seemed like it was difficult for new businesses to open, even with community [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Church Hill People&#8217;s News &#187; East End zoning meeting - Richmond, Virginia</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-8271</link>
		<dc:creator>Church Hill People&#8217;s News &#187; East End zoning meeting - Richmond, Virginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] will be a meeting concerning zoning tomorrow (Thursday) at 6PM at EDI on 25th Street. Given the brouhahas over businesses trying to open in the area, this should be a good [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] will be a meeting concerning zoning tomorrow (Thursday) at 6PM at EDI on 25th Street. Given the brouhahas over businesses trying to open in the area, this should be a good [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Magneto</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-8210</link>
		<dc:creator>Magneto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to a summary of the latest City Council public hearing, the off-street parking requirements have been waived for Que Pasa.  Hopefully, this means that they will be opening soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to a summary of the latest City Council public hearing, the off-street parking requirements have been waived for Que Pasa.  Hopefully, this means that they will be opening soon.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-7527</link>
		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is there a particular time for the open house?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is there a particular time for the open house?</p>
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		<title>By: Nacho</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-7463</link>
		<dc:creator>Nacho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck John!  We are hoping for your success!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck John!  We are hoping for your success!</p>
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		<title>By: john_m</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-7460</link>
		<dc:creator>john_m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There will be an  Open House at Que Pasa? on September 28th, 2007.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will be an  Open House at Que Pasa? on September 28th, 2007.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Daab</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-7099</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Daab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Oct. 8th is the Council Meeting.  John Sanchez came to the CHA meeting last night to give us an update and get support from the membership, which he got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Oct. 8th is the Council Meeting.  John Sanchez came to the CHA meeting last night to give us an update and get support from the membership, which he got.</p>
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		<title>By: john_m</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-7085</link>
		<dc:creator>john_m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.richmondgov.com/applications/clerksTracking/getPDF.asp?NO=2007-239&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here is a link to the paper as a PDF&lt;/a&gt;, which says that there will be a public hearing Oct.8 @ 6PM. That is a Monday, would that be a council meeting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.richmondgov.com/applications/clerksTracking/getPDF.asp?NO=2007-239" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Here is a link to the paper as a PDF</a>, which says that there will be a public hearing Oct.8 @ 6PM. That is a Monday, would that be a council meeting?</p>
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		<title>By: LC</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-7083</link>
		<dc:creator>LC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems things are moving again for Que Pasa.  A Planning Commision meeting is scheduled for Monday, Oct. 1 at 1:30pm.

This info from RichmondGov.com.  The electronic paper is numbered 2007-239 if anyone is interested and can navigate the city site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems things are moving again for Que Pasa.  A Planning Commision meeting is scheduled for Monday, Oct. 1 at 1:30pm.</p>
<p>This info from RichmondGov.com.  The electronic paper is numbered 2007-239 if anyone is interested and can navigate the city site.</p>
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		<title>By: john_m</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3462</link>
		<dc:creator>john_m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 20:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon at River City Rapids &lt;a href=&#039;http://rivercityrapids.blogspot.com/2007/05/rest-of-que-pasa-story.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;looks at this again with some hindsight&lt;/a&gt;, making the point that the media fell a little short on really sifting through all of this, and that the city still makes it too hard to get things accomplished. He uses the same response from the city that &lt;a href=&#039;http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market/#comment-3395&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Magneto posted here on May 9th&lt;/a&gt; as a the closing facts of the case, though it really doesn&#039;t feel like this is over. Regardless (and despite the vitriol), the bulk of the comments in response to this have been informative and really fleshed out our understanding of the situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon at River City Rapids <a href='http://rivercityrapids.blogspot.com/2007/05/rest-of-que-pasa-story.html' rel="nofollow">looks at this again with some hindsight</a>, making the point that the media fell a little short on really sifting through all of this, and that the city still makes it too hard to get things accomplished. He uses the same response from the city that <a href='http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market/#comment-3395' rel="nofollow">Magneto posted here on May 9th</a> as a the closing facts of the case, though it really doesn&#8217;t feel like this is over. Regardless (and despite the vitriol), the bulk of the comments in response to this have been informative and really fleshed out our understanding of the situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3415</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 16:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Hmmm:  You said &quot;...donâ€™t mind putting questions and views out there and seeing what news and views might come back.&quot;  You seem to mind my views and news.  I guess you just like the news and views that you agree with.

And quit it with the &quot;love it or leave it&quot; schtick!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Hmmm:  You said &#8220;&#8230;donâ€™t mind putting questions and views out there and seeing what news and views might come back.&#8221;  You seem to mind my views and news.  I guess you just like the news and views that you agree with.</p>
<p>And quit it with the &#8220;love it or leave it&#8221; schtick!</p>
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		<title>By: hey Hmmm...</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3411</link>
		<dc:creator>hey Hmmm...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 22:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm... dude, I don&#039;t know if these particular people are first-time business owners or not, but it is entirely possible that a) they already have restaurant management experience, but b) this is their first experience opening a restaurant and getting their heads around zoning, permits, etc.  If this were the case, the upside would be that after getting all the paperwork square, they could then turn to getting back to the business they know: managing a restaurant.  More generally: Cut the guy wanting to take the next step some slack.

BTW, different people like their news served differently.  Some order up USA Today.  Others fancy the Wall Street Journal.  Still others go for your Brick weeklies.  Etc.  If you don&#039;t like what you read here, read elsewhere, but chill on those of us that don&#039;t mind putting questions and views out there and seeing what news and views might come back.

Hey Grrr -- how many threads have you been able to get &#039;sharpened sticks&#039; into the conversation -- thanks for the running laugh.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; dude, I don&#8217;t know if these particular people are first-time business owners or not, but it is entirely possible that a) they already have restaurant management experience, but b) this is their first experience opening a restaurant and getting their heads around zoning, permits, etc.  If this were the case, the upside would be that after getting all the paperwork square, they could then turn to getting back to the business they know: managing a restaurant.  More generally: Cut the guy wanting to take the next step some slack.</p>
<p>BTW, different people like their news served differently.  Some order up USA Today.  Others fancy the Wall Street Journal.  Still others go for your Brick weeklies.  Etc.  If you don&#8217;t like what you read here, read elsewhere, but chill on those of us that don&#8217;t mind putting questions and views out there and seeing what news and views might come back.</p>
<p>Hey Grrr &#8212; how many threads have you been able to get &#8216;sharpened sticks&#8217; into the conversation &#8212; thanks for the running laugh.  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3404</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 14:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like Sanchez needs to stock up on black plastic bags..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like Sanchez needs to stock up on black plastic bags..</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3402</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 13:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s face it.  If this guy can&#039;t manage the hurdles of opening this place, how is he going to manage a wait staff, drunken patrons, ABC, and the general day-to-day management that it takes to stay open?  Shoot, even savvy restaurant owners fail, and regularly.  Thinking that it will be &quot;fun&quot; to open a restaurant (without any prior experience, or success) is the reason why so many don&#039;t make it.

rj:  I have always thought and will continue to think that Style magazine is the biggest piece of s--t ad rag around AND with major attitude.  And yes, the local news is filled with &quot;happy talk&quot; and crap.  I am not referring to those entities. Seems like the &quot;People&#039;s&quot; (and participants) shouldn&#039;t take itself so seriously.  Old one: You think this is a traditional newspaper?  Thereâ€™s the real laugh!  Better start taking your Alzheimer&#039;s meds again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s face it.  If this guy can&#8217;t manage the hurdles of opening this place, how is he going to manage a wait staff, drunken patrons, ABC, and the general day-to-day management that it takes to stay open?  Shoot, even savvy restaurant owners fail, and regularly.  Thinking that it will be &#8220;fun&#8221; to open a restaurant (without any prior experience, or success) is the reason why so many don&#8217;t make it.</p>
<p>rj:  I have always thought and will continue to think that Style magazine is the biggest piece of s&#8211;t ad rag around AND with major attitude.  And yes, the local news is filled with &#8220;happy talk&#8221; and crap.  I am not referring to those entities. Seems like the &#8220;People&#8217;s&#8221; (and participants) shouldn&#8217;t take itself so seriously.  Old one: You think this is a traditional newspaper?  Thereâ€™s the real laugh!  Better start taking your Alzheimer&#8217;s meds again.</p>
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		<title>By: Magneto</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3401</link>
		<dc:creator>Magneto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 12:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those typos actually were in there, too, since I wanted to post it word for word (including their grammatical mistakes).

And, yes, this note is really from the Mayor&#039;s office.  If you need proof, I suppose I can scan it and send it to John, who could then verify its authenticity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those typos actually were in there, too, since I wanted to post it word for word (including their grammatical mistakes).</p>
<p>And, yes, this note is really from the Mayor&#8217;s office.  If you need proof, I suppose I can scan it and send it to John, who could then verify its authenticity.</p>
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		<title>By: Old one</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3400</link>
		<dc:creator>Old one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 12:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the Mayor&#039;s office,

Isn&#039;t there someone down there who can correct the typos in a letter before sending it???? Or is that note really from the Mayor&#039;s office????

Old</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the Mayor&#8217;s office,</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t there someone down there who can correct the typos in a letter before sending it???? Or is that note really from the Mayor&#8217;s office????</p>
<p>Old</p>
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		<title>By: Magneto</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3395</link>
		<dc:creator>Magneto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 21:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, here it is:

Dear Mr. *****

Thank you for your recent email on behalf of Mr. John Sanchez, owner of Que Pasa restaurant.

As do you, the City of Richmond (&quot;City&quot;) applauds Mr. Sanchez&#039;s desire to bring business opportunities to the City, and welcomes the new dining option he is poised to offer its Church Hill residents in particular.

Indeed, in spite of Mr. Sanchez&#039;s assertion to the contrary, the City has stood to assist him in this business venture.  Unfortunately, Mr. Sanchez failed to plan and time the development of his business so as to maximize the assistance the City could have provided to him.  (Whether he admits it or not, it is his failure that he is the root of the frustration he has publicly voiced to the delay in opening his establishment.)

In Spring 2006, a member of the Mayor&#039;s staff put Mr. Sanchez in touch with the City&#039;s Real Estate Office to facilitate his request to lease parking spaces for his proposed restaurant.  At that time, Mr. Sanchez represented that his restaurant was to be an 837 square feet take-out restaurant.  On his representation, the City Council granted a special use permit to allow the City to lease parking spaces to Mr. Sanchez.  (Even for the limited number of parking spaces, Mr. Sanchez was initially required to have, he has never executed the lease for them.)

After City approval had been granted to Mr. Sanchez for his take-out restaurant and request for parking spaces, he changed his mind and decided to change the use of the building so as to use the first and second floor as a dine-in restaurant.

A dine-in restaurant facility has different parking requirements than does a take-out restaurant facility.  Mr. Sanchez was informed of these facts, and was also informed that the change he now desired to make to his restaurant would have to go before the Board of Zoning Appeals or to acquire another Special Use Permit from the City Council.  Mr. Sanchez has chosen to characterize this requirement as being unfair, and particular to him.  It is not.

The City strives to apply the zoning rules and requirements impartially to all applicants.  The City employs the same process for everyone.  And, notwithstanding our collective excitement for the (delayed) opening of Que Pasa, Mr. Sanchez&#039;s must follow the rules and process that are in place, and have been in place since he initially approached the City with his original plans.

That you for sharing your comments.  I join you in hope that Que Pasa is a successful addition to the Church Hill community and the City of Richmond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, here it is:</p>
<p>Dear Mr. *****</p>
<p>Thank you for your recent email on behalf of Mr. John Sanchez, owner of Que Pasa restaurant.</p>
<p>As do you, the City of Richmond (&#8220;City&#8221;) applauds Mr. Sanchez&#8217;s desire to bring business opportunities to the City, and welcomes the new dining option he is poised to offer its Church Hill residents in particular.</p>
<p>Indeed, in spite of Mr. Sanchez&#8217;s assertion to the contrary, the City has stood to assist him in this business venture.  Unfortunately, Mr. Sanchez failed to plan and time the development of his business so as to maximize the assistance the City could have provided to him.  (Whether he admits it or not, it is his failure that he is the root of the frustration he has publicly voiced to the delay in opening his establishment.)</p>
<p>In Spring 2006, a member of the Mayor&#8217;s staff put Mr. Sanchez in touch with the City&#8217;s Real Estate Office to facilitate his request to lease parking spaces for his proposed restaurant.  At that time, Mr. Sanchez represented that his restaurant was to be an 837 square feet take-out restaurant.  On his representation, the City Council granted a special use permit to allow the City to lease parking spaces to Mr. Sanchez.  (Even for the limited number of parking spaces, Mr. Sanchez was initially required to have, he has never executed the lease for them.)</p>
<p>After City approval had been granted to Mr. Sanchez for his take-out restaurant and request for parking spaces, he changed his mind and decided to change the use of the building so as to use the first and second floor as a dine-in restaurant.</p>
<p>A dine-in restaurant facility has different parking requirements than does a take-out restaurant facility.  Mr. Sanchez was informed of these facts, and was also informed that the change he now desired to make to his restaurant would have to go before the Board of Zoning Appeals or to acquire another Special Use Permit from the City Council.  Mr. Sanchez has chosen to characterize this requirement as being unfair, and particular to him.  It is not.</p>
<p>The City strives to apply the zoning rules and requirements impartially to all applicants.  The City employs the same process for everyone.  And, notwithstanding our collective excitement for the (delayed) opening of Que Pasa, Mr. Sanchez&#8217;s must follow the rules and process that are in place, and have been in place since he initially approached the City with his original plans.</p>
<p>That you for sharing your comments.  I join you in hope that Que Pasa is a successful addition to the Church Hill community and the City of Richmond.</p>
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		<title>By: john_m</title>
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		<dc:creator>john_m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 19:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go ahead and put the words up.</description>
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		<title>By: Magneto</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3393</link>
		<dc:creator>Magneto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 19:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just received a written response from the Mayor&#039;s Office regarding my email to them about Que Pasa.  Shall I include a transcript below or email it to you, John, so that you may post it electronically on the site?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just received a written response from the Mayor&#8217;s Office regarding my email to them about Que Pasa.  Shall I include a transcript below or email it to you, John, so that you may post it electronically on the site?</p>
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		<title>By: Grrrr</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3382</link>
		<dc:creator>Grrrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 17:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wee need top sharpen some sticks and go after them!</description>
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		<title>By: Old one</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3373</link>
		<dc:creator>Old one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 19:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As of now Bill.  Show some proper respect.

Old</description>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3366</link>
		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 16:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>since when is this site a traditional newspaper?</description>
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		<title>By: rj</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3353</link>
		<dc:creator>rj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 20:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Hmmm, the standard bearer of so-called &quot;News&quot; is now local TV and or local entertainment weeklies? Now, that is the funniest posting I have seen on this site in some time. This site is obviously a nice mix of fact and conjecture, it is after all a &quot;peoples&#039;&quot; news.  Howard Zinn would be proud of its eclectic mix of facts and crazed conspiracy theories. Plus, I think this whole hullabaloo will be hilariously funny if the restaurant in question sucks (which, considering the owner&#039;s apparent attention-to-detail-deficit-disorder is a strong possibility).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Hmmm, the standard bearer of so-called &#8220;News&#8221; is now local TV and or local entertainment weeklies? Now, that is the funniest posting I have seen on this site in some time. This site is obviously a nice mix of fact and conjecture, it is after all a &#8220;peoples&#8217;&#8221; news.  Howard Zinn would be proud of its eclectic mix of facts and crazed conspiracy theories. Plus, I think this whole hullabaloo will be hilariously funny if the restaurant in question sucks (which, considering the owner&#8217;s apparent attention-to-detail-deficit-disorder is a strong possibility).</p>
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		<title>By: hey Hmmm...</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3352</link>
		<dc:creator>hey Hmmm...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 19:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget that in addition to reporting on the facts (e.g., the ordinance involved), the &quot;traditional&quot; newspapers also provide space for op-eds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget that in addition to reporting on the facts (e.g., the ordinance involved), the &#8220;traditional&#8221; newspapers also provide space for op-eds.</p>
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		<title>By: john_m</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3351</link>
		<dc:creator>john_m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 18:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve misread the tone of my comments, I&#039;m not being pissy. I had the same story as everyone else, except that they got paid for it and took a little longer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve misread the tone of my comments, I&#8217;m not being pissy. I had the same story as everyone else, except that they got paid for it and took a little longer.</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3347</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 18:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Accept that legitimate news organizations usually welcome criticism and don&#039;t get pissy about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Accept that legitimate news organizations usually welcome criticism and don&#8217;t get pissy about it.</p>
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		<title>By: john_m</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3346</link>
		<dc:creator>john_m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 17:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I reported as much as the tv or newspaper did, thank you very much. More, if you include that link to the resolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reported as much as the tv or newspaper did, thank you very much. More, if you include that link to the resolution.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3345</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 17:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me throw something else in the mix here.

Does anyone know if Mr. Sanchez has applied for an ABC license?

If he hasn&#039;t, someone might want to tell him that&#039;s it&#039;s not an overnight process, especially if neighborhood objections arise.</description>
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<p>Does anyone know if Mr. Sanchez has applied for an ABC license?</p>
<p>If he hasn&#8217;t, someone might want to tell him that&#8217;s it&#8217;s not an overnight process, especially if neighborhood objections arise.</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3344</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 16:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, none of us have all the facts here.  Almost 80 posts to this thread without any real concrete info accept for the fact that an ordinance was passed allowing the owners of Que Pasa to enter into an agreement with the proper city authorities to lease some parking spaces - this is just one piece of the puzzle.  The rest is just speculation.

We&#039;d all (I think) like to see a restaurant there, and I think it&#039;s funny how, on this site, a former fish market has turned into a fish tale!  Gossiping over the cyper-fence if you will.

If the point is to be of service to the community, it would be much more helpful if threads like these posted all of the facts up front (some research) so that participants can engage in a more productive discussion.  It seems that without all the facts, these threads just turn into hearsay and venting fits; it&#039;s just Church Hill People Gossip.  Which is fine, if that&#039;s what you want, just don&#039;t call it &quot;news.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, none of us have all the facts here.  Almost 80 posts to this thread without any real concrete info accept for the fact that an ordinance was passed allowing the owners of Que Pasa to enter into an agreement with the proper city authorities to lease some parking spaces &#8211; this is just one piece of the puzzle.  The rest is just speculation.</p>
<p>We&#8217;d all (I think) like to see a restaurant there, and I think it&#8217;s funny how, on this site, a former fish market has turned into a fish tale!  Gossiping over the cyper-fence if you will.</p>
<p>If the point is to be of service to the community, it would be much more helpful if threads like these posted all of the facts up front (some research) so that participants can engage in a more productive discussion.  It seems that without all the facts, these threads just turn into hearsay and venting fits; it&#8217;s just Church Hill People Gossip.  Which is fine, if that&#8217;s what you want, just don&#8217;t call it &#8220;news.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3342</link>
		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 16:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it hard to believe, if all rules were followed, why this establishment wouldnt be open. The quote in the style says the owners have gone outside the scope of the permit. I have to agree w/ previous poster who mentions bad business planing. Also, owners taking shots at the council woman is not going to help your cause. Time to stop blaming the city, stop crying and take actions that will truly help your cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it hard to believe, if all rules were followed, why this establishment wouldnt be open. The quote in the style says the owners have gone outside the scope of the permit. I have to agree w/ previous poster who mentions bad business planing. Also, owners taking shots at the council woman is not going to help your cause. Time to stop blaming the city, stop crying and take actions that will truly help your cause.</p>
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		<title>By: GRRRRRR!</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3341</link>
		<dc:creator>GRRRRRR!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 14:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Archie,

Completely Agree!</description>
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		<title>By: archie bunker</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3340</link>
		<dc:creator>archie bunker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 14:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GRRRRRR! -- George and Kate staff the Church Hill office of H&amp;W.  They do not work every matter that comes in the door.  They are there, in part, to help direct the people with specific needs to lawyers capable of handling those needs.  I am quite confident that H&amp;W has plenty of people who work in this area, and do it very well.  I also strongly believe that it is unlikely that anyone else locally is any better &quot;connected&quot; than H&amp;W (perhaps as well connected, though).

I&#039;m just offering suggestions based on the idea that finances may be tight (hence the comment above aboe being able to pay employees).  I agree that McGuire Woods and Hirschler Fleischer would be good choices if they are realistic options.  I have no axe to grind here.  I&#039;d just like to see this restaurant open for business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GRRRRRR! &#8212; George and Kate staff the Church Hill office of H&amp;W.  They do not work every matter that comes in the door.  They are there, in part, to help direct the people with specific needs to lawyers capable of handling those needs.  I am quite confident that H&amp;W has plenty of people who work in this area, and do it very well.  I also strongly believe that it is unlikely that anyone else locally is any better &#8220;connected&#8221; than H&amp;W (perhaps as well connected, though).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just offering suggestions based on the idea that finances may be tight (hence the comment above aboe being able to pay employees).  I agree that McGuire Woods and Hirschler Fleischer would be good choices if they are realistic options.  I have no axe to grind here.  I&#8217;d just like to see this restaurant open for business.</p>
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		<title>By: GRRRRRR!</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3339</link>
		<dc:creator>GRRRRRR!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 13:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be clear, that was not intended in any way to question the qualifications of George Hettrick or Kate Duvall.  George is a partner at Hunton, and they are both fine attorneys.  I just think you need to find a specialist in this area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be clear, that was not intended in any way to question the qualifications of George Hettrick or Kate Duvall.  George is a partner at Hunton, and they are both fine attorneys.  I just think you need to find a specialist in this area.</p>
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		<title>By: GRRRRRR!</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3338</link>
		<dc:creator>GRRRRRR!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 13:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...you need an experienced and well connected land use lawyer, not a first year associate who is serving his/her rotation to meet the firm&#039;s pro bono expectations.  This is a specialized area of law, and you are going to end up in a worse place if you hire the wrong lawyer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;you need an experienced and well connected land use lawyer, not a first year associate who is serving his/her rotation to meet the firm&#8217;s pro bono expectations.  This is a specialized area of law, and you are going to end up in a worse place if you hire the wrong lawyer.</p>
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		<title>By: archie bunker</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3337</link>
		<dc:creator>archie bunker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 13:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the owners: if things are getting tight, you might consider checking with Hunton &amp; Williams&#039; Church Hill pro bono office at the corner of 23rd and Marshall.  Ask to talk to George Hettrick or Kate Duvall.  They may be able to take the matter on a free or reduced fee basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the owners: if things are getting tight, you might consider checking with Hunton &amp; Williams&#8217; Church Hill pro bono office at the corner of 23rd and Marshall.  Ask to talk to George Hettrick or Kate Duvall.  They may be able to take the matter on a free or reduced fee basis.</p>
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		<title>By: A Neighbor</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3336</link>
		<dc:creator>A Neighbor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 12:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beth,you said I assumed something about you being an owner, and then you say &quot;We just want to feed ya&quot;?  Those are the words of an owner or a person in control.  On a more neighborly note, if you haven&#039;t talked to a land use lawyer yet, please get one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beth,you said I assumed something about you being an owner, and then you say &#8220;We just want to feed ya&#8221;?  Those are the words of an owner or a person in control.  On a more neighborly note, if you haven&#8217;t talked to a land use lawyer yet, please get one.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3332</link>
		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 21:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe the place could open as a carryout at least to get started. it seems most everyone is doing a lot of whining. did sanchez call mcquinn? if sanchez does not like the decision of the building official, it could be appealed, if done in the time limit allowed. a petition won&#039;t do that. is sanchez competent enough to make the appeal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe the place could open as a carryout at least to get started. it seems most everyone is doing a lot of whining. did sanchez call mcquinn? if sanchez does not like the decision of the building official, it could be appealed, if done in the time limit allowed. a petition won&#8217;t do that. is sanchez competent enough to make the appeal?</p>
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		<title>By: rubberneck</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3331</link>
		<dc:creator>rubberneck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 21:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p.s I promise to proofread future posts</description>
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		<title>By: rubberneck</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3330</link>
		<dc:creator>rubberneck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 21:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, I must point out.  The parking agreement would provide the spaces needed to satisfy requirements for a sit-down restaurant. HOWEVER, if the buliding was only zoned for take-out, I believe the owners would still have to go through the re-zoning or variance process.  The parking lease would have to be presented, in support of the change.  (please correct me if I have this wrong)  I also must be honest here.  I have talked to several people in the neighborhood (contractors and such) and the word on the street is that this whole problem is that Mr. Sanchez went about the project ass-backwards.  Built a restaurant and then asked for permission to have a restaurant there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, I must point out.  The parking agreement would provide the spaces needed to satisfy requirements for a sit-down restaurant. HOWEVER, if the buliding was only zoned for take-out, I believe the owners would still have to go through the re-zoning or variance process.  The parking lease would have to be presented, in support of the change.  (please correct me if I have this wrong)  I also must be honest here.  I have talked to several people in the neighborhood (contractors and such) and the word on the street is that this whole problem is that Mr. Sanchez went about the project ass-backwards.  Built a restaurant and then asked for permission to have a restaurant there</p>
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		<title>By: GRRRRRR!</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3329</link>
		<dc:creator>GRRRRRR!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 21:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John...make sure you do not rely on this board for legal advice....  Call someone who practices land use law.   It has been my experience that Hirschler Fleisher and McGuire Woods have the most respected lawyers in this area of practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John&#8230;make sure you do not rely on this board for legal advice&#8230;.  Call someone who practices land use law.   It has been my experience that Hirschler Fleisher and McGuire Woods have the most respected lawyers in this area of practice.</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3328</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 20:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O.K.  Was the lease agreement (attached within ordinance) ever signed and registered with the city?  If this was never signed, no deal.

Section 18 of the lease agreement concerns defaulting on the lease.  Did the lessee (Que Pasa) or lessor (City) default on the agreement?

If the city has defaulted on the agreement, there is nothing in the agreement that really protects Que Pasa.  It just says that they can work out a reduction in rent on the property if appropriate - which obviously it is not.

Could be lawyer time, or just bite it and file for the SUP.  The latter being more expeditious, more predictable and least expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O.K.  Was the lease agreement (attached within ordinance) ever signed and registered with the city?  If this was never signed, no deal.</p>
<p>Section 18 of the lease agreement concerns defaulting on the lease.  Did the lessee (Que Pasa) or lessor (City) default on the agreement?</p>
<p>If the city has defaulted on the agreement, there is nothing in the agreement that really protects Que Pasa.  It just says that they can work out a reduction in rent on the property if appropriate &#8211; which obviously it is not.</p>
<p>Could be lawyer time, or just bite it and file for the SUP.  The latter being more expeditious, more predictable and least expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: je ne sais pas</title>
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		<dc:creator>je ne sais pas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 20:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the course of trying to get a cuban sandwich in the near future, I recenty discovered that you can search for resolutions considered by the city council.  Posted [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the course of trying to get a cuban sandwich in the near future, I recenty discovered that you can search for resolutions considered by the city council.  Posted [...]</p>
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		<title>By: john_m</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3326</link>
		<dc:creator>john_m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 20:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.richmondgov.com/applications/clerksTracking/getPDF.asp?NO=2006-289-286&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this is the relevant ordinance (PDF)&lt;/a&gt; (#2006-289-286, patron D.Wilder, passed unanimously on  11/27/2006 with 2 nonvotes from the 1st and the 8th).
&lt;blockquote&gt;To authorize the Chief Administrative Officer, William E. Harrell, on behalf of the City of Richmond, to execute a Parking Lease Agreement between DIT of Virginia and the City of Richmond concerning the use of fifteen (15) spaces in the parking lot located at 701 North 25th Street. {Land Use, Housing and Transportation â€“ November 21, 2006}&lt;/blockquote&gt;
(I found this via &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.richmondgov.com/applications/clerksTracking/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this page&lt;/a&gt; on the city website. Props to the city for making that available.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that <a href='http://www.richmondgov.com/applications/clerksTracking/getPDF.asp?NO=2006-289-286' rel="nofollow">this is the relevant ordinance (PDF)</a> (#2006-289-286, patron D.Wilder, passed unanimously on  11/27/2006 with 2 nonvotes from the 1st and the 8th).</p>
<blockquote><p>To authorize the Chief Administrative Officer, William E. Harrell, on behalf of the City of Richmond, to execute a Parking Lease Agreement between DIT of Virginia and the City of Richmond concerning the use of fifteen (15) spaces in the parking lot located at 701 North 25th Street. {Land Use, Housing and Transportation â€“ November 21, 2006}</p></blockquote>
<p>(I found this via <a href='http://www.richmondgov.com/applications/clerksTracking/' rel="nofollow">this page</a> on the city website. Props to the city for making that available.)</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 20:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, I would like to know if in fact an ordinance was passed giving Que Pasa permission to use the EDI parking lot or some other parking arrangement.  

This is important, because if there is an ordinance, then it&#039;s a done deal and all this stuff is just nonsense.  If not...

Again, cite the ordinance, when it was passed and who was the patron. Anybody?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, I would like to know if in fact an ordinance was passed giving Que Pasa permission to use the EDI parking lot or some other parking arrangement.  </p>
<p>This is important, because if there is an ordinance, then it&#8217;s a done deal and all this stuff is just nonsense.  If not&#8230;</p>
<p>Again, cite the ordinance, when it was passed and who was the patron. Anybody?</p>
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		<title>By: Beth MacKinnon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth MacKinnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 19:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will not comment anymore....I am personaly involved and do not want to make any enemies...thank you all for the comments and support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will not comment anymore&#8230;.I am personaly involved and do not want to make any enemies&#8230;thank you all for the comments and support.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth MacKinnon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth MacKinnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 19:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are ready to feed ya! Just right now all we have is Cheerio&#039;s and pop tarts :) Free beer...Thank you for your support!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are ready to feed ya! Just right now all we have is Cheerio&#8217;s and pop tarts :) Free beer&#8230;Thank you for your support!</p>
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		<title>By: jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 19:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, we you do open (and you will!) at least a lot of folks will know about it due to all of this mess. and we will all be very hungry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, we you do open (and you will!) at least a lot of folks will know about it due to all of this mess. and we will all be very hungry!</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3321</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 19:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beth: With all do respect, your last comment speaks volumes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beth: With all do respect, your last comment speaks volumes.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth MacKinnon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth MacKinnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 19:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as the building not being zoned for THAT kind of restaurant....I&#039;m not sure that UB has certain types of restaurants that can go in there....or that would be the problem right?? Parking is the problem...not the type of restaurant that is there. Maybe I&#039;m wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as the building not being zoned for THAT kind of restaurant&#8230;.I&#8217;m not sure that UB has certain types of restaurants that can go in there&#8230;.or that would be the problem right?? Parking is the problem&#8230;not the type of restaurant that is there. Maybe I&#8217;m wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3319</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 19:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you cite the city ordinance number?  When was it passed?  Who was the patron of the paper?</description>
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		<title>By: Beth MacKinnon</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3318</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth MacKinnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 19:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We want to serve you food!</description>
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		<title>By: Beth MacKinnon</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3317</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth MacKinnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 19:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well...honestly we thought that having a city ordinance passed would be the final say in the matter. Special use permit will take months. Bank would probably not like that so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;honestly we thought that having a city ordinance passed would be the final say in the matter. Special use permit will take months. Bank would probably not like that so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
		<link>http://chpn.net/news/2007/04/25/it-was-better-as-a-fish-market_799/#comment-3316</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 19:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...canâ€™t even afford to pay employees WHEN we get open.&quot;  Sounds to me like you&#039;re involved one way or another.  Also, from the RTD article: &quot;The restaurant operated as take-out only since 1965, he said, most recently a fish market, so it had different parking requirements.&quot;

&quot;When we told the city that we want chairs, that&#039;s when we drove off a cliff,&quot; Sanchez said.

Let&#039;s see, do I have this right? You knew about the parking requirements, waited to tell the city after the intitial building permit that you were going to be a sit-down restaurant rather than take-out, and you&#039;re pissed at the city?
 
Sounds like some really poor planning, and lack of business capital is what&#039;s going to keep you out of business, not the city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;canâ€™t even afford to pay employees WHEN we get open.&#8221;  Sounds to me like you&#8217;re involved one way or another.  Also, from the RTD article: &#8220;The restaurant operated as take-out only since 1965, he said, most recently a fish market, so it had different parking requirements.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;When we told the city that we want chairs, that&#8217;s when we drove off a cliff,&#8221; Sanchez said.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see, do I have this right? You knew about the parking requirements, waited to tell the city after the intitial building permit that you were going to be a sit-down restaurant rather than take-out, and you&#8217;re pissed at the city?</p>
<p>Sounds like some really poor planning, and lack of business capital is what&#8217;s going to keep you out of business, not the city.</p>
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