That’s ma boy! He’s planning on sending you a letter this week to explain his idea (and to help promote). Thanks gor recognizing his work so quickly. The signs went up late yesterday. More from me/him soon.
I saw a guy throw a bottle off the ledge into the brush at Chimbo Park rather than walk twenty feet in either direction to one of two trash cans. People make no sense.
The problem with picking up trash is that it totally enables the littering habit. People walk down the street, and empty their pickets, throw cigs, cups, food wrappers on the ground, shovel things from their car right onto the curb.
How do we discourage the people who are doing the littering, versus just covering up their mess?
A prime example is Creighton Court. They have people who pick up trash on a weekly basis. Wait until we get a really nice weather weekend and drive by Creighton on a Saturday or Sunday. You cannot walk more that 5-10 feet without stepping on trash. It is a complete mess. Why is it like this? Many of the people that live there are enabled to liter because they know someone will pick up the trash for them.
@Rebecca, that’s right, these people are too lazy to walk to a trash can that is only a feet away. Complete laziness. Disgusting. Sad.
So the real questions- how do we really stop the problem versus just covering it up?
#12 – I do agree with you that we are enabling these bad behaviors to a certain extent. That being said, what is the alternative? Is RPD going to start actively enforcing the rules, ticketing folks for littering? I’m all for that, but not sure how feasible it is.
I cleaned up my street and I’ve noticed less trash each time I’ve done maintenance pickups-minus the couch someone dumped,sigh*- but I’ve seen other people have been out also picking up on a neighboring street that I was planning on asking for help with so I feel like it’s a good thing. You can’t make everyone do the right thing but some people are willing once they realize the neighborhood is a place of pride.
As someone who lives in a cheap apartment, I have a lot of pride in my community and look forward to being part of the challenge. Thanks to Jennifer’s son for throwing down the gauntlet.
@Church Hillian Perhaps you don’t understand what it’s like to live for generations in projects or cheap apartments. Why would anyone have pride in their community after being marginalized, segregated, feared, fearful and forgotten? It’s really easy to say things like “These people” or “enabling” if you haven’t thought more deeply about it. It’s not that simple.
Also, I’m SO glad those stupid signs coming out of Fulton have been taken down. The ones that so cloyingly said “Play the lottery? Don’t litter or else it’s bad luck.” What those signs were saying was “Hey poor black people, we know you are the ones who are littering. We know there’s no other way for you to get out of the situation you are in so of course you are the ones buying lottery tickets. Thus, we’re just going to put these signs way up here to show you how to act like us, the privileged, because we know better than you.”
So you are justifying those who live in free/discounted housing have the right to LITTER because you claim they are “marginalized, segregated, feared, fearful and forgotten”?
Also, no one was claiming the race card until you brought that to the table. Thanks for bringing that out.
And just in case you did not know, Creighton Court is not all people of color.
How are the lottery signs any different than the handmade ones as listed above? Are you claiming Jennifer’s son is directing his signs to “Black people” as you stated?
And Joe this is simple. Just don’t throw stuff on the ground; put it in the trash can. It does not matter if you are black, white, Latino, Asian, fat, gay, ugly, pink haired, bald, old, young, poor or rich. All people of all makes can take this simple “challenge”. And yes as you stated and described we could make excuses for every group I mentioned.
@Church Hillian, Your last response makes me shake my head so hard I hurt my neck.
Clearly you do not understand the socio-economic dynamics that play a major part in the equation, and you probably don’t realize how much you’re saying between the lines. I’ll pray for you though, that you’re able to open yourself to the greater context that systematic poverty is the problem, not the folks who are disenfranchised by it.
We can all agree though that littering is not good.
One day my husband was standing on the corner of Broad and 25th St.beside a trash can waiting to cross the street when a woman threw a cup of some sort of soda out the window. My husband pickd it up and threw it back in the car! The woman could have easily thrown it in the trash can. All hell broke loose and the man driving threatened to shoot my husband whereupon he calmly said , ” you should not throw trash out of your car window like that “. The cup came flying out of the car window again and the car screeched off.
Stupid, inconsiderate, arrogant, haughty, self-important, insolent behavior has nothing to do with “socio-economic, opening oneself,” and all that other crap . As previously stated, this is not a black, white , indian issue.
I am sorry you hurt your neck. That happens to a lot of pissy eyed liberals who make excuses for bad social behavior.
When McDonalds first opened, We had a sudden problem with empty cups and food wrappers showing up on our block. We got together to discuss this hew problem and came up with a simple, effective solution.
When we saw someone throw something on the side walk, we picked it up, gave it back to the person that threw it and walked them to the corner where there was a trashcan, and asked that in the future to please put it in the trash and not throw it on the sidewalk.
This worked so well that within 6 months there was no longer a problem. Nobody got mad and threatened to shoot us. We at all times were courteous and kept up chet chat while walking to the trash can.
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That’s ma boy! He’s planning on sending you a letter this week to explain his idea (and to help promote). Thanks gor recognizing his work so quickly. The signs went up late yesterday. More from me/him soon.
The trash can has stink lines coming off of it
@Jennifer – looking forward to hearing more. LOVE THIS.
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Be nice if there were a challenge to not throw trash on the ground that people would take seriously.
Is this the same guy behind the no littering sign next to Vernon J Harris medical center? He’s Church Hill’s Litter Bug Batman!
Now that’s a challenge I wish they would adhere to in my neighborhood because I’m convinced no one knows how to use a trash can.
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Kudos to this great idea! I can’t tell you how mad it makes me seeing our so called “neighbors” throw trash out of their cars at stop signs.
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can i get a xtra large copy of this for 23rd & R Street.
The problem with picking up trash is that it totally enables the littering habit. People walk down the street, and empty their pickets, throw cigs, cups, food wrappers on the ground, shovel things from their car right onto the curb.
How do we discourage the people who are doing the littering, versus just covering up their mess?
A prime example is Creighton Court. They have people who pick up trash on a weekly basis. Wait until we get a really nice weather weekend and drive by Creighton on a Saturday or Sunday. You cannot walk more that 5-10 feet without stepping on trash. It is a complete mess. Why is it like this? Many of the people that live there are enabled to liter because they know someone will pick up the trash for them.
@Rebecca, that’s right, these people are too lazy to walk to a trash can that is only a feet away. Complete laziness. Disgusting. Sad.
So the real questions- how do we really stop the problem versus just covering it up?
#12 – I do agree with you that we are enabling these bad behaviors to a certain extent. That being said, what is the alternative? Is RPD going to start actively enforcing the rules, ticketing folks for littering? I’m all for that, but not sure how feasible it is.
I cleaned up my street and I’ve noticed less trash each time I’ve done maintenance pickups-minus the couch someone dumped,sigh*- but I’ve seen other people have been out also picking up on a neighboring street that I was planning on asking for help with so I feel like it’s a good thing. You can’t make everyone do the right thing but some people are willing once they realize the neighborhood is a place of pride.
@JewelofPrussia
Following by example. Thats the best answer I have heard so far! (But it is still really frustrating)
There is one block on Marshall that is mostly cheap apartments. These people litter like no other, they have no pride in their community!!
As someone who lives in a cheap apartment, I have a lot of pride in my community and look forward to being part of the challenge. Thanks to Jennifer’s son for throwing down the gauntlet.
@Church Hillian
Perhaps you don’t understand what it’s like to live for generations in projects or cheap apartments. Why would anyone have pride in their community after being marginalized, segregated, feared, fearful and forgotten? It’s really easy to say things like “These people” or “enabling” if you haven’t thought more deeply about it. It’s not that simple.
Also, I’m SO glad those stupid signs coming out of Fulton have been taken down. The ones that so cloyingly said “Play the lottery? Don’t litter or else it’s bad luck.” What those signs were saying was “Hey poor black people, we know you are the ones who are littering. We know there’s no other way for you to get out of the situation you are in so of course you are the ones buying lottery tickets. Thus, we’re just going to put these signs way up here to show you how to act like us, the privileged, because we know better than you.”
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Amen Joe!
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So you are justifying those who live in free/discounted housing have the right to LITTER because you claim they are “marginalized, segregated, feared, fearful and forgotten”?
Also, no one was claiming the race card until you brought that to the table. Thanks for bringing that out.
And just in case you did not know, Creighton Court is not all people of color.
How are the lottery signs any different than the handmade ones as listed above? Are you claiming Jennifer’s son is directing his signs to “Black people” as you stated?
And Joe this is simple. Just don’t throw stuff on the ground; put it in the trash can. It does not matter if you are black, white, Latino, Asian, fat, gay, ugly, pink haired, bald, old, young, poor or rich. All people of all makes can take this simple “challenge”. And yes as you stated and described we could make excuses for every group I mentioned.
@Church Hillian,
Your last response makes me shake my head so hard I hurt my neck.
Clearly you do not understand the socio-economic dynamics that play a major part in the equation, and you probably don’t realize how much you’re saying between the lines. I’ll pray for you though, that you’re able to open yourself to the greater context that systematic poverty is the problem, not the folks who are disenfranchised by it.
We can all agree though that littering is not good.
One day my husband was standing on the corner of Broad and 25th St.beside a trash can waiting to cross the street when a woman threw a cup of some sort of soda out the window. My husband pickd it up and threw it back in the car! The woman could have easily thrown it in the trash can. All hell broke loose and the man driving threatened to shoot my husband whereupon he calmly said , ” you should not throw trash out of your car window like that “. The cup came flying out of the car window again and the car screeched off.
Stupid, inconsiderate, arrogant, haughty, self-important, insolent behavior has nothing to do with “socio-economic, opening oneself,” and all that other crap . As previously stated, this is not a black, white , indian issue.
I am sorry you hurt your neck. That happens to a lot of pissy eyed liberals who make excuses for bad social behavior.
When McDonalds first opened, We had a sudden problem with empty cups and food wrappers showing up on our block. We got together to discuss this hew problem and came up with a simple, effective solution.
When we saw someone throw something on the side walk, we picked it up, gave it back to the person that threw it and walked them to the corner where there was a trashcan, and asked that in the future to please put it in the trash and not throw it on the sidewalk.
This worked so well that within 6 months there was no longer a problem. Nobody got mad and threatened to shoot us. We at all times were courteous and kept up chet chat while walking to the trash can.